Warming Filter effect in MSP 7? at DVinfo.net

Jay Noggle · March 20th, 2005, 12:58 PM

Any one done this with MSP or equivalent?

I am in the process of just finding and buying a filter for the cam, but would like to know how to do this in post as well.

If anyone has a solution to this and you do not use MSP, please be kind enough to break it down into general steps.
Or actually, I could also try in After Effects. I would be able to take step by step directions in AE.

Thanks, Jay

Glenn Chan · March 20th, 2005, 01:34 PM

Here's the general approach for most editing programs:

Find the color balance filter. Adjust it to make colors warmer, or closer to orange. The orange would be the opposite of pure blue.

OR

Many programs have a "telecine-style" color corrector with three color wheels. By convention the right wheel controls white balance (for highlights) so drag that wheel warmer or towards orange. If there is only one wheel, it is probably for white balance so drag it warmer.

2- I think with consumer cameras, the auto-white balance of the camera will defeat the point of a warming filter. In fact if you can get white balance cards that throw off your camera's AWB so you end up with a slightly warmer or cooler color temperature- this can be a better idea.

Or do it in post, which takes rendering and is free.

Jay Noggle · March 20th, 2005, 02:06 PM

Glenn: thanks for responding.

Both my cams are 3 chip with manual everything so I use manual WB.

I have tested the filter on cam idea with a square Cokin Warming Filter I have (held it up over the WA lens) and it is a much improved picture.
What I am after is that "Golden Hour" lighting in movies.

Thanks, Jay

Tim Borek · March 31st, 2005, 12:12 PM

Hi, Jay.

I edit in MSP 7.2 and I normally do what Glenn Chan recommends, which is apply the Color Balance filter to the clip. Given that MediaStudio Pro is sorely lacking in its color correction tools, I find myself warming my footage when need simply by decreasing the Blue value (the filter offer sliders for red, green, and blue levels). The Brightness and Contrast filter may help you too, after you get the frame orange enough.

March 20th, 2005, 12:58 PM	#1
Jay Noggle New Boot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Coos Bay OR Posts: 11	Warming Filter effect in MSP 7? Any one done this with MSP or equivalent? I am in the process of just finding and buying a filter for the cam, but would like to know how to do this in post as well. If anyone has a solution to this and you do not use MSP, please be kind enough to break it down into general steps. Or actually, I could also try in After Effects. I would be able to take step by step directions in AE. Thanks, Jay

March 20th, 2005, 02:06 PM	#3
Jay Noggle New Boot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Coos Bay OR Posts: 11	Glenn: thanks for responding. Both my cams are 3 chip with manual everything so I use manual WB. I have tested the filter on cam idea with a square Cokin Warming Filter I have (held it up over the WA lens) and it is a much improved picture. What I am after is that "Golden Hour" lighting in movies. Thanks, Jay __________________ It's not about the greatest gear, it's about what you do with it....

March 31st, 2005, 12:12 PM	#4
Tim Borek Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 353	Warming color in MSP 7 Hi, Jay. I edit in MSP 7.2 and I normally do what Glenn Chan recommends, which is apply the Color Balance filter to the clip. Given that MediaStudio Pro is sorely lacking in its color correction tools, I find myself warming my footage when need simply by decreasing the Blue value (the filter offer sliders for red, green, and blue levels). The Brightness and Contrast filter may help you too, after you get the frame orange enough.

March 20th, 2005, 01:34 PM	#2
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Here's the general approach for most editing programs: Find the color balance filter. Adjust it to make colors warmer, or closer to orange. The orange would be the opposite of pure blue. OR Many programs have a "telecine-style" color corrector with three color wheels. By convention the right wheel controls white balance (for highlights) so drag that wheel warmer or towards orange. If there is only one wheel, it is probably for white balance so drag it warmer. 2- I think with consumer cameras, the auto-white balance of the camera will defeat the point of a warming filter. In fact if you can get white balance cards that throw off your camera's AWB so you end up with a slightly warmer or cooler color temperature- this can be a better idea. Or do it in post, which takes rendering and is free.