converting AVCHD before editing at DVinfo.net

Paul Ulreich · September 17th, 2009, 07:05 AM

I have seem some things online about taking your avchd files and converting to something else before editing that doesnt much affect the quality but makes it faster to edit say using Pinnacle.

Anyone here done that before? If so whaty would you convert it to, MPEG2? AVI?

Thanks again for helpin the newguy

Robert M Wright · September 17th, 2009, 11:20 AM

www.cineform.com

Paul Ulreich · September 17th, 2009, 12:29 PM

what am i looking at here?

Brian Tori · September 17th, 2009, 04:57 PM

Here is your solution.

NewBlue AVCHD Upshift | Batch convert your AVCHD files into standard .M2T files.

Paul Ulreich · September 19th, 2009, 08:42 AM

cool so what benefit will that provide?

Faster rendering?
Easier editing?
Less space used on hard drive?

Thanks!

Brian Tori · September 19th, 2009, 08:50 AM

You'll get the benefit of all three. Download trial and give it a spin.

Xian Messerschmidt · September 20th, 2009, 02:23 PM

NeoScene converts AVCHD to 10-bit 4:2:2 avi that is pretty much lossless and perfect for speedy editing, color grading, etc. UpShift converts to MPEG2. I'd recommend Cineform before UpShift if you're planning on editing.

Jim Snow · September 21st, 2009, 10:02 AM

I agree, Cineform is a much better choice. MPEG isn't a good format for editing.

Mark Williams · September 21st, 2009, 10:47 AM

Tried Cineform Neo Scene trial today on Canon 7d file from dpreview.com. Worked great. Only doubled the file's 44mb size and was fast. Brought the converted file into Edius and it played back fine. Looks like a great solution.

Brian Tori · September 21st, 2009, 11:12 AM

Both programs are a good solution. I've used both and was happy with results of each. Both will enable you to take AVCHD and convert to a more easily editable format.

Benefits of Upshift:

1. easily edited with most current systems.
2. faster rendering than AVCHD native.
3. maintains original file sizes(Cineform will use 2x-4x more hard drive space)

Benefits of Cineform:

1. easily edited with most current systems
2. faster rendering than AVCHD native.
3. uses 10 bit 4:2:2, which will hold up through post better

On the Cineform site, Pinnacle is not listed as a compatible NLE for use with Neoscene. It may work though.

Perrone Ford · September 21st, 2009, 11:33 AM

Since when is Cineform (at the Neoscene level) 10bit?

[edit]

Just looked at their file spec. Neoscene is indeed 10bit. That's amazing. And a terrific bargain. I use a different system, but this is fabulous for someone looking to go this route on a budget.

C.S. Michael · September 21st, 2009, 03:02 PM

If you have Sony Vegas you can do a batch conversion to whatever format you like.

Tools > Scripting > Batch Render

Ervin Farkas · September 25th, 2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Williams

Tried Cineform Neo Scene trial today on Canon 7d file from dpreview.com. Worked great. Only doubled the file's 44mb size and was fast. Brought the converted file into Edius and it played back fine. Looks like a great solution.

I am shocked... Mark, what's wrong with Canopus HQ???

Robert M Wright · September 26th, 2009, 08:56 AM

Canopus HQ, all by itself, can justify the cost of Edius Neo. It's a viable alternative to Cineform's codec.

Xian Messerschmidt · September 26th, 2009, 12:51 PM

EDIUS is a really fantastic editor. The only thing I don't like about it is the lack of plugin support. There is an After Effects bridge in beta, though. Once they get that working well I think a lot of people are going to stand up and take notice.

September 17th, 2009, 07:05 AM	#1
Paul Ulreich New Boot Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Des Plaines, IL Posts: 10	converting AVCHD before editing I have seem some things online about taking your avchd files and converting to something else before editing that doesnt much affect the quality but makes it faster to edit say using Pinnacle. Anyone here done that before? If so whaty would you convert it to, MPEG2? AVI? Thanks again for helpin the newguy

September 21st, 2009, 10:47 AM	#9
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Tried Cineform Neo Scene trial today on Canon 7d file from dpreview.com. Worked great. Only doubled the file's 44mb size and was fast. Brought the converted file into Edius and it played back fine. Looks like a great solution. __________________ Mark videos: http://vimeo.com/channels/3523 Stock: http://www.pond5.com/artist/mark29

September 21st, 2009, 11:33 AM	#11
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	Since when is Cineform (at the Neoscene level) 10bit? [edit] Just looked at their file spec. Neoscene is indeed 10bit. That's amazing. And a terrific bargain. I use a different system, but this is fabulous for someone looking to go this route on a budget. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

September 21st, 2009, 03:02 PM	#12
C.S. Michael Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 197	If you have Sony Vegas you can do a batch conversion to whatever format you like. Tools > Scripting > Batch Render __________________ Bored? Check out my blog (shot with Sony EX1, Panasonic TM700, Nikon D7100, Sony NEX-5N, GoPro2): LongLongHoneymoon.com

September 17th, 2009, 11:20 AM	#2
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	www.cineform.com

September 17th, 2009, 12:29 PM	#3
Paul Ulreich New Boot Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Des Plaines, IL Posts: 10	what am i looking at here?

September 17th, 2009, 04:57 PM	#4
Brian Tori Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 408	Here is your solution. NewBlue AVCHD Upshift \| Batch convert your AVCHD files into standard .M2T files.

September 19th, 2009, 08:42 AM	#5
Paul Ulreich New Boot Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Des Plaines, IL Posts: 10	cool so what benefit will that provide? Faster rendering? Easier editing? Less space used on hard drive? Thanks!

September 19th, 2009, 08:50 AM	#6
Brian Tori Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 408	You'll get the benefit of all three. Download trial and give it a spin.

September 20th, 2009, 02:23 PM	#7
Xian Messerschmidt Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 58	NeoScene converts AVCHD to 10-bit 4:2:2 avi that is pretty much lossless and perfect for speedy editing, color grading, etc. UpShift converts to MPEG2. I'd recommend Cineform before UpShift if you're planning on editing.

September 21st, 2009, 10:02 AM	#8
Jim Snow Trustee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,104	I agree, Cineform is a much better choice. MPEG isn't a good format for editing.

September 21st, 2009, 11:12 AM	#10
Brian Tori Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 408	Both programs are a good solution. I've used both and was happy with results of each. Both will enable you to take AVCHD and convert to a more easily editable format. Benefits of Upshift: 1. easily edited with most current systems. 2. faster rendering than AVCHD native. 3. maintains original file sizes(Cineform will use 2x-4x more hard drive space) Benefits of Cineform: 1. easily edited with most current systems 2. faster rendering than AVCHD native. 3. uses 10 bit 4:2:2, which will hold up through post better On the Cineform site, Pinnacle is not listed as a compatible NLE for use with Neoscene. It may work though.

September 26th, 2009, 08:56 AM	#14
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	Canopus HQ, all by itself, can justify the cost of Edius Neo. It's a viable alternative to Cineform's codec.

September 26th, 2009, 12:51 PM	#15
Xian Messerschmidt Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 58	EDIUS is a really fantastic editor. The only thing I don't like about it is the lack of plugin support. There is an After Effects bridge in beta, though. Once they get that working well I think a lot of people are going to stand up and take notice.