NLE systems? Need Help!!! at DVinfo.net

Jun Tang · September 18th, 2004, 01:54 PM

I am posting this under the Vegas Video because I heard this software gives other NLE software a run for their money.

Reasons I probably go with Vegas
1) I love PC better than Mac (but FCP is a great software too)
2) I already have a PC, so adding the software and possible upgrade is possibly cheaper.

***NOW THIS IS WHERE I NEED YOUR GUYS EXPERTISE***

My PC Specs:

Tyan 2462 dual athlon mp - 5 years old.
Extended ATX tower
512 MB RAM PCC 2100
60 GB Western Digital HD 7,200 rpm
MATROX G 550

The question is should I upgrade the computer for Vegas?
Keep the computer like this for Vegas?

Or just buy Final Cut Pro because the cost would be the same ?

Richard Lewis · September 18th, 2004, 02:16 PM

VEGAS......VEGAS!!!

Why have you excluded Premier Pro??
The are both very capable bits of software, but I personally love Premier.

Jun Tang · September 18th, 2004, 03:24 PM

I heard Premiere PRo 1.5 still needs to fix the progressive scan. Which currently it produces blur and doesn't look to good. I have use premiere long time ago and Speed Razor. I like it, but i have a DVX100a with 24 progressive scan.

Richard Alvarez · September 18th, 2004, 05:16 PM

I have heard XXX program has problems with YYY, and constantly crashes.

Fill in any name and problem. Best thing to do is try before you buy anything. Vegas, Premier, Avid, all have demo versions. (At least I think so.)

Your system looks pretty good for most, might want to add some media drives, a couple of 200 gigs would be sweet.

Glenn Chan · September 18th, 2004, 10:52 PM

Your amount of RAM is fine for Vegas. I don't know about Premiere... I suspect more may be a bit better if you have huge complicated projects.

2- Personally I like Vegas better because it's so much more powerful than Premiere, but again you could try out the demos.

3- Your computer's specs are pretty fine for Vegas. If you want to render faster, you could upgrade to a new Pentium system. Divide the speed of the new Pentium by the PR rating of one of your AMD processors- that is about the speed increase you will see in rendering. i.e. pentium 3.2ghz / AMD 1000+ = 320%. (in your case this will be fairly close)

For MPEG2 encoding, a new Pentium processor will be a lot faster because of the new instruction sets, which Pentiums are fast at (SSE2, and SSE3 on Prescott pentiums).

*Premiere Pro: the above does not apply. If you processors dont have the SSE2 instruction set they will not run Premiere Pro.

Counter-point:
A- Do you really need the speed? You could justwait for things to finish. Your system will still get the job done.
B- a new Pentium system will consume more electricity and require a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM. This costs $$$ in the short and long term

More hard drive space as Richard mentioned would be very nice.

September 18th, 2004, 01:54 PM	#1
Jun Tang Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West LA Posts: 135	NLE systems? Need Help!!! I am posting this under the Vegas Video because I heard this software gives other NLE software a run for their money. Reasons I probably go with Vegas 1) I love PC better than Mac (but FCP is a great software too) 2) I already have a PC, so adding the software and possible upgrade is possibly cheaper. *NOW THIS IS WHERE I NEED YOUR GUYS EXPERTISE* My PC Specs: Tyan 2462 dual athlon mp - 5 years old. Extended ATX tower 512 MB RAM PCC 2100 60 GB Western Digital HD 7,200 rpm MATROX G 550 The question is should I upgrade the computer for Vegas? Keep the computer like this for Vegas? Or just buy Final Cut Pro because the cost would be the same ? __________________ www.tangfilms.com

September 18th, 2004, 02:16 PM	#2
Richard Lewis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Manchester and Kent, UK Posts: 256	VEGAS......VEGAS!!! Why have you excluded Premier Pro?? The are both very capable bits of software, but I personally love Premier. __________________ Richard Lewis. Steadicam Owner / Operator

September 18th, 2004, 03:24 PM	#3
Jun Tang Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West LA Posts: 135	Vegas Baby I heard Premiere PRo 1.5 still needs to fix the progressive scan. Which currently it produces blur and doesn't look to good. I have use premiere long time ago and Speed Razor. I like it, but i have a DVX100a with 24 progressive scan. __________________ www.tangfilms.com

September 18th, 2004, 05:16 PM	#4
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	I have heard XXX program has problems with YYY, and constantly crashes. Fill in any name and problem. Best thing to do is try before you buy anything. Vegas, Premier, Avid, all have demo versions. (At least I think so.) Your system looks pretty good for most, might want to add some media drives, a couple of 200 gigs would be sweet.

September 18th, 2004, 10:52 PM	#5
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Your amount of RAM is fine for Vegas. I don't know about Premiere... I suspect more may be a bit better if you have huge complicated projects. 2- Personally I like Vegas better because it's so much more powerful than Premiere, but again you could try out the demos. 3- Your computer's specs are pretty fine for Vegas. If you want to render faster, you could upgrade to a new Pentium system. Divide the speed of the new Pentium by the PR rating of one of your AMD processors- that is about the speed increase you will see in rendering. i.e. pentium 3.2ghz / AMD 1000+ = 320%. (in your case this will be fairly close) For MPEG2 encoding, a new Pentium processor will be a lot faster because of the new instruction sets, which Pentiums are fast at (SSE2, and SSE3 on Prescott pentiums). Premiere Pro: the above does not apply. If you processors dont have the SSE2 instruction set they will not run Premiere Pro. Counter-point: A- Do you really* need the speed? You could justwait for things to finish. Your system will still get the job done. B- a new Pentium system will consume more electricity and require a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM. This costs $$$ in the short and long term More hard drive space as Richard mentioned would be very nice.