Let's see some of those timelines! at DVinfo.net

James Emory · March 19th, 2004, 08:39 PM

Okay. We have seen pictures of everyone's gear from cameras to support to editing hardware. How about the virtual environment that finishes these projects. Timelines are a great way to document those hours if not days in post and helps those clients see just what goes into creating their vision. Let's see some of those timelines from your projects from small to super size to nightmares! Below are a few of mine.

http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image1.jpg

http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image2.jpg

http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image3.jpg

http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image4.jpg

http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image5.jpg

http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image6.jpg

Rob Lohman · March 21st, 2004, 05:25 PM

You can see my timeline from my Lady X episode here

On the left screen I had my log sheet + notes open and on the
right one you can see my Vegas timeline.

The top track has a 16:9 mask in it. The track below it is a fix
track where I put certain frames that needed fixing. The track
below is the main track with all of the footage and the audio track
is last.

In later revisions a seperate music track + sound effects track
was added which made for a total of 6 tracks.

James Emory · March 21st, 2004, 07:29 PM

Rob. Is there any way that you could provide a screen full screen shot to show more detail? I just hit print screen, open paint, paste into paint and then save as a .jpg file.

Rob Lohman · March 22nd, 2004, 06:42 AM

Sure I can, give me a coupe of days. I need to get my project
back on the harddisk and then load it up into Vegas. That's why
I put up this one picture I already lying around, heh <g>

Brian Huey · March 22nd, 2004, 01:59 PM

http://myhome.spu.edu/bhuey/timeline/ROA_Timeline.jpg

Cheers,
Brian

James Emory · March 22nd, 2004, 02:35 PM

Looks really involved Brian. I have noticed that your timeline image is just like mine as far as quality, not so great. Why is it perfectly clear while on my hard drive but when I post it as you did, the clarity goes way down? Anyone know why this is and how to fix it?

John Britt · March 22nd, 2004, 02:41 PM

James -- looks clear to me...

Did you expand the pic in Internet Explorer? IE will reduce the image to fit the window (and this reduced image will look poor); if you hover your cursor over the image, a small box with arrows will appear in the bottom right corner. Click on this box to expand the pic to full size.

Unless you already did that, then I don't know what the problem is... :)

Brian Huey · March 22nd, 2004, 03:37 PM

Yeah, John both are clear to me, I have my IE set up so that it never resizes pictures, sounds like the resizing is what's getting you James.

That was my first project in Premiere! Course some of it looks more complicated then it should. It's a thirty minute video so everythings packed together in that view, and I had to double up all the audio tracks because the different sample rates were screwing up the audio so I resampled everything in Audition to 48kHz and then lined up those files with the others.

If you want to see it click on the 'www' button under this post. It's big file though, 190mb, Divx required.

Cheers,
Brian

James Emory · March 22nd, 2004, 03:52 PM

Thanks John. I wasn't aware of that trick. For anyone else that wants to set their IE to not auto resize do the following:
1. Go to tools in your browser
2. Click on internet options
3. Click on the advanced tab
4. Scroll down to multimedia
5. Uncheck enable auto image resize
6. Click apply and then OK

I really needed to know about that a while back when I was trying to show someone some detailed reports.

John Britt · March 22nd, 2004, 04:31 PM

No problem... I actually kinda like the resize option and keep it active in IE -- I've opened one too many links to photos that were kept at their original 1600x1200 (or greater) resolution!

Rob Lohman · March 24th, 2004, 02:02 AM

James: re-check my image as well then. It is a 1400x1050 picture
that IE resized as well then. You should see some more detail
in there now.

I'll try to post an actual screenshot with the latest edit of the
episode open later this week.

James Emory · March 24th, 2004, 02:58 AM

I was definitely able to see it better but not as good as with a screen shot.

Anthony Meluso · March 25th, 2004, 02:44 PM

Rob quick question about your timeline.

I see you used a 16:9 mask. Did you shoot your work in the camera's 16:9 mode or regular 4:3. Also, any good ways in creating a accurate letter box 16:9 mask?

Thanks alot.

Rob Lohman · March 28th, 2004, 04:04 AM

I shoot everything in 4:3 because I like to be able to reframe my
picture vertically. So that's why I use the mask. My mask came
from my own Letterbox calculator where you can download the
masks I'm using as well!

March 19th, 2004, 08:39 PM	#1
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Let's see some of those timelines! Okay. We have seen pictures of everyone's gear from cameras to support to editing hardware. How about the virtual environment that finishes these projects. Timelines are a great way to document those hours if not days in post and helps those clients see just what goes into creating their vision. Let's see some of those timelines from your projects from small to super size to nightmares! Below are a few of mine. http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image1.jpg http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image2.jpg http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image3.jpg http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image4.jpg http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image5.jpg http://161.58.78.36/images/timelines/image6.jpg

March 21st, 2004, 05:25 PM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You can see my timeline from my Lady X episode here On the left screen I had my log sheet + notes open and on the right one you can see my Vegas timeline. The top track has a 16:9 mask in it. The track below it is a fix track where I put certain frames that needed fixing. The track below is the main track with all of the footage and the audio track is last. In later revisions a seperate music track + sound effects track was added which made for a total of 6 tracks. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 21st, 2004, 07:29 PM	#3
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Screen Shot Rob. Is there any way that you could provide a screen full screen shot to show more detail? I just hit print screen, open paint, paste into paint and then save as a .jpg file.

March 22nd, 2004, 06:42 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Sure I can, give me a coupe of days. I need to get my project back on the harddisk and then load it up into Vegas. That's why I put up this one picture I already lying around, heh <g> __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 22nd, 2004, 02:35 PM	#6
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Image Resolution Quality Looks really involved Brian. I have noticed that your timeline image is just like mine as far as quality, not so great. Why is it perfectly clear while on my hard drive but when I post it as you did, the clarity goes way down? Anyone know why this is and how to fix it?

March 22nd, 2004, 01:59 PM	#5
Brian Huey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle , WA Posts: 184	http://myhome.spu.edu/bhuey/timeline/ROA_Timeline.jpg Cheers, Brian

March 22nd, 2004, 02:41 PM	#7
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	James -- looks clear to me... Did you expand the pic in Internet Explorer? IE will reduce the image to fit the window (and this reduced image will look poor); if you hover your cursor over the image, a small box with arrows will appear in the bottom right corner. Click on this box to expand the pic to full size. Unless you already did that, then I don't know what the problem is... :)

March 22nd, 2004, 03:37 PM	#8
Brian Huey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle , WA Posts: 184	Yeah, John both are clear to me, I have my IE set up so that it never resizes pictures, sounds like the resizing is what's getting you James. That was my first project in Premiere! Course some of it looks more complicated then it should. It's a thirty minute video so everythings packed together in that view, and I had to double up all the audio tracks because the different sample rates were screwing up the audio so I resampled everything in Audition to 48kHz and then lined up those files with the others. If you want to see it click on the 'www' button under this post. It's big file though, 190mb, Divx required. Cheers, Brian

March 22nd, 2004, 03:52 PM	#9
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	That did it! Thanks John. I wasn't aware of that trick. For anyone else that wants to set their IE to not auto resize do the following: 1. Go to tools in your browser 2. Click on internet options 3. Click on the advanced tab 4. Scroll down to multimedia 5. Uncheck enable auto image resize 6. Click apply and then OK I really needed to know about that a while back when I was trying to show someone some detailed reports.

March 22nd, 2004, 04:31 PM	#10
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	No problem... I actually kinda like the resize option and keep it active in IE -- I've opened one too many links to photos that were kept at their original 1600x1200 (or greater) resolution!

March 24th, 2004, 02:02 AM	#11
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	James: re-check my image as well then. It is a 1400x1050 picture that IE resized as well then. You should see some more detail in there now. I'll try to post an actual screenshot with the latest edit of the episode open later this week. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 24th, 2004, 02:58 AM	#12
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Better! I was definitely able to see it better but not as good as with a screen shot.

March 25th, 2004, 02:44 PM	#13
Anthony Meluso Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 53	Rob quick question about your timeline. I see you used a 16:9 mask. Did you shoot your work in the camera's 16:9 mode or regular 4:3. Also, any good ways in creating a accurate letter box 16:9 mask? Thanks alot.

March 28th, 2004, 04:04 AM	#14
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I shoot everything in 4:3 because I like to be able to reframe my picture vertically. So that's why I use the mask. My mask came from my own Letterbox calculator where you can download the masks I'm using as well! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors