Does monitor resolution matter in DV editing? at DVinfo.net

David Ho · February 3rd, 2004, 06:31 AM

I normally use 800x600x32. Does it matter if you use 800x600x32 or 1024x768x32 or 16bit? Would this affect the ratio or size or quality of the DV during post. or all they the same size/ratio DV picture?

David Hurdon · February 3rd, 2004, 08:08 AM

For a couple of years I've run two versions of Premiere on a 19" monitor at 1600 X 1200. The only difference it makes is how much room you have for the program's various windows. Your source and monitor windows will appear to be smaller than at 800X600, but not in a limiting way.

David Hurdon

David Ho · February 3rd, 2004, 12:02 PM

Will the final product be a standard of default ratio? I mean...whats the normal size that DV is usually viewed at and will be viewed at when you convert it back onto s-video/audio on the TV?

David Hurdon · February 3rd, 2004, 01:23 PM

If you hang around the right forums you'll be aware that a small but increasing number of theatrical releases were shot on DV25 camcorders. That being true you have some idea of how much you can blow up the original material. If you work with DV source files in a DV NTSC editing project, for example, you'll have either 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio (often called 'widescreen'). The 4:3 ratio is traditional TV, whether it's 4 inches by 3 inches or four yards by three yards. The screen resolution of your editing monitor has nothing whatsoever to do with how the final project can be displayed. If by "what's the normal size that DV is usually viewed at" you mean what resolution is native to the media, it's 720X480 pixels in the NTSC format (North America). But, if you hook up your DV camcorder to a digital video projector you can throw a pretty big image on the wall before you'll see any significant breaking up. I hope I've understood your question.

David Hurdon

John Britt · February 3rd, 2004, 01:35 PM

Dave posted right before i was going to -- but what the heck, I'll chime in, too!

Dave is correct -- your monitor resoltion does not matter. Think of a Word document: changing your monitor resolution will have no effect on how Word will print out your 8.5x11 document in 12pt type. The document size and font size is independent of your monitor resolution (in respects to the final output). 8.5x11 inches is always the same and 12pt type is always the same.

That said, I am unclear on what you mean by "convert it back onto s-video" -- if you mean that your PC's graphics card has an S-video output that you want to plug straight into a TV, then I'm not sure. I know from hooking up laptops to TV sets that monitor resolution can affect the image on the TV (eg, the Desktop will be larger than the TV screen and will get cut off on the edges).

But if you simply want to export back to miniDV tape or transfer to DVD, and then watch it on a TV, then your monitor's resolution will have no effect on the final product.

Rob Lohman · February 3rd, 2004, 02:06 PM

I would definitely not use your video card to record a movie onto
tape or whatever. Use firewire out or a good quality DVD with
a good quality DVD player for that.

Monitor resolution does not matter for quality. Only the quality
of your monitor / video card come into play for that (basically,
other things like cables as well). But I could never ever work on
800x600 or anything below 1400x1050 I'm running at now.
Sure you get used to what you're working with, but when I
open up Vegas on my 1024x768 screen there just isn't any room
left to breathe for me. I'm hoping I will be able to buy a
1600x1200 TFT panel later this year to use as my primary
monitor, besides my 1024x768 screen for things like scopes and
other information windows with an additional broadcast monitor
to check the video source.

David Ho · February 4th, 2004, 04:06 AM

So, no matter what... the final product will always be 720X480 pixels in size on a NTSC television/camcorder?

Rob Lohman · February 4th, 2004, 04:09 AM

That depends on how you export the movie, ofcourse. But your
monitor resolution never ever has anything to do with the final
product if you ARE NOT using the graphics card as an OUTPUT
device (other then for your monitor). That's a no-no. If you export
from Premiere/Vegas/Avid/FCP directly to tape (through firewire)
it will be full resolution DV. If you export to a file you will have a
choice on what resolution and file type to use.

February 3rd, 2004, 06:31 AM	#1
David Ho Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 354	Does monitor resolution matter in DV editing? I normally use 800x600x32. Does it matter if you use 800x600x32 or 1024x768x32 or 16bit? Would this affect the ratio or size or quality of the DV during post. or all they the same size/ratio DV picture? __________________ "Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film."

February 3rd, 2004, 08:08 AM	#2
David Hurdon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 484	For a couple of years I've run two versions of Premiere on a 19" monitor at 1600 X 1200. The only difference it makes is how much room you have for the program's various windows. Your source and monitor windows will appear to be smaller than at 800X600, but not in a limiting way. David Hurdon __________________ Site:http://www.faceliftmarketing.ca Blog:http://www.websitevideo.blogspot.com

February 3rd, 2004, 12:02 PM	#3
David Ho Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 354	Will the final product be a standard of default ratio? I mean...whats the normal size that DV is usually viewed at and will be viewed at when you convert it back onto s-video/audio on the TV? __________________ "Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film."

February 3rd, 2004, 01:23 PM	#4
David Hurdon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 484	If you hang around the right forums you'll be aware that a small but increasing number of theatrical releases were shot on DV25 camcorders. That being true you have some idea of how much you can blow up the original material. If you work with DV source files in a DV NTSC editing project, for example, you'll have either 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio (often called 'widescreen'). The 4:3 ratio is traditional TV, whether it's 4 inches by 3 inches or four yards by three yards. The screen resolution of your editing monitor has nothing whatsoever to do with how the final project can be displayed. If by "what's the normal size that DV is usually viewed at" you mean what resolution is native to the media, it's 720X480 pixels in the NTSC format (North America). But, if you hook up your DV camcorder to a digital video projector you can throw a pretty big image on the wall before you'll see any significant breaking up. I hope I've understood your question. David Hurdon __________________ Site:http://www.faceliftmarketing.ca Blog:http://www.websitevideo.blogspot.com

February 3rd, 2004, 02:06 PM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I would definitely not use your video card to record a movie onto tape or whatever. Use firewire out or a good quality DVD with a good quality DVD player for that. Monitor resolution does not matter for quality. Only the quality of your monitor / video card come into play for that (basically, other things like cables as well). But I could never ever work on 800x600 or anything below 1400x1050 I'm running at now. Sure you get used to what you're working with, but when I open up Vegas on my 1024x768 screen there just isn't any room left to breathe for me. I'm hoping I will be able to buy a 1600x1200 TFT panel later this year to use as my primary monitor, besides my 1024x768 screen for things like scopes and other information windows with an additional broadcast monitor to check the video source. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 3rd, 2004, 01:35 PM	#5
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	Dave posted right before i was going to -- but what the heck, I'll chime in, too! Dave is correct -- your monitor resoltion does not matter. Think of a Word document: changing your monitor resolution will have no effect on how Word will print out your 8.5x11 document in 12pt type. The document size and font size is independent of your monitor resolution (in respects to the final output). 8.5x11 inches is always the same and 12pt type is always the same. That said, I am unclear on what you mean by "convert it back onto s-video" -- if you mean that your PC's graphics card has an S-video output that you want to plug straight into a TV, then I'm not sure. I know from hooking up laptops to TV sets that monitor resolution can affect the image on the TV (eg, the Desktop will be larger than the TV screen and will get cut off on the edges). But if you simply want to export back to miniDV tape or transfer to DVD, and then watch it on a TV, then your monitor's resolution will have no effect on the final product.

February 4th, 2004, 04:06 AM	#7
David Ho Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 354	So, no matter what... the final product will always be 720X480 pixels in size on a NTSC television/camcorder? __________________ "Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film."

February 4th, 2004, 04:09 AM	#8
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That depends on how you export the movie, ofcourse. But your monitor resolution never ever has anything to do with the final product if you ARE NOT using the graphics card as an OUTPUT device (other then for your monitor). That's a no-no. If you export from Premiere/Vegas/Avid/FCP directly to tape (through firewire) it will be full resolution DV. If you export to a file you will have a choice on what resolution and file type to use. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors