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Ross Weinshenker · January 7th, 2004, 11:03 AM

What program do you guys use for cool text? I have Adobe Premiere 6.5. Right now I'm just using Photoshop 7.0, but I was looking for better programs for like animated video text and stuff. Also, what do you guys use for 3D-Motion effects?

Ed Smith · January 7th, 2004, 11:12 AM

Define cool?

Most people tend to use the in built title designer, or as your doing photoshop. If you want to get a little bit more creative then you could use Adobe After Effects, or a 3D modeling program like 3D studio MAX.

There are other dedicated titleing software. But I can't remember any. Besides they tend to give you really cheesey text animation.

Hope this helps,

Ed

Ross Weinshenker · January 7th, 2004, 11:17 AM

I mean like in commercials...say when it looks like a computer is typing out the letters...or maybe the letters are wavy when they're sliding in...something like that. Not necessarily "cool" fonts per se, but more cool "techniques" or effects on manipulating the text itself.

Mike Rehmus · January 7th, 2004, 10:53 PM

Take a look at Ulead's Cool 3D Studio. Affordable and you can do a lot more than animate text with it.

Julian Luttrell · January 8th, 2004, 05:33 AM

Others that are not _too_ expensive:

Inscriber Titlemotion - it's a plugin for Premiere and can be cheesy if you use standard presets. Beware - it is aimed at video (ie broadcast) output, so all titles are interlaced.

Boris Title Toolkit - easy to use cut down version of Graffiti (note that this is a number of After Effects plugins).

Boris Graffiti (or was that Grafitti?) - a powerful, vector based, titler - it often wins comparison tests with other titlers.

Almost any compositing application (After Effects, Boris Red, Combustion, Digital Fusion) - but you need more time to fine tune the results.

Regards,

Julian

Ross Weinshenker · January 9th, 2004, 11:18 AM

here, take a look at this film here:

http://www.undergroundfilm.org/films...cl?wid=1003626

How would you do the effects like the text flying back and stuff like that without taking FOREVER in Photoshop to create the titles and use motion to make them go back?

Julian Luttrell · January 9th, 2004, 12:51 PM

Ross,

there's no application with a "make cool text" button.

It takes thoughtful design, consistent use throughout the video, and a careful eye for breaking down the final effect into a number of simpler effects that can be combined.

Then build a template version, and reuse that by changing the letters and words. All (most of) your effort goes into the first one, with subsequent uses almost happening for free.

Cool text is an art form, and the cooler it looks the longer it took to do.

Regards,

Julian

Ross Weinshenker · January 9th, 2004, 01:04 PM

Yeah that's what I was afraid of....but is there any way to manipulate the movement of the text like in that trailer I posted? Like so you don't have to do the motion on EVERY one? ........

Yi Fong Yu · January 9th, 2004, 05:28 PM

well the best titles are made from 3D modeling programs like th 3D studio max... but if you want almost 'on the fly' ones, check out flash.

www.flash.com

January 7th, 2004, 11:03 AM	#1
Ross Weinshenker Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Any, Where Posts: 54	Text Issues... What program do you guys use for cool text? I have Adobe Premiere 6.5. Right now I'm just using Photoshop 7.0, but I was looking for better programs for like animated video text and stuff. Also, what do you guys use for 3D-Motion effects?

January 7th, 2004, 11:12 AM	#2
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Define cool? Most people tend to use the in built title designer, or as your doing photoshop. If you want to get a little bit more creative then you could use Adobe After Effects, or a 3D modeling program like 3D studio MAX. There are other dedicated titleing software. But I can't remember any. Besides they tend to give you really cheesey text animation. Hope this helps, Ed __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

January 7th, 2004, 10:53 PM	#4
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Take a look at Ulead's Cool 3D Studio. Affordable and you can do a lot more than animate text with it. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

January 9th, 2004, 05:28 PM	#9
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	well the best titles are made from 3D modeling programs like th 3D studio max... but if you want almost 'on the fly' ones, check out flash. www.flash.com __________________ bow wow wow

January 7th, 2004, 11:17 AM	#3
Ross Weinshenker Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Any, Where Posts: 54	I mean like in commercials...say when it looks like a computer is typing out the letters...or maybe the letters are wavy when they're sliding in...something like that. Not necessarily "cool" fonts per se, but more cool "techniques" or effects on manipulating the text itself.

January 8th, 2004, 05:33 AM	#5
Julian Luttrell Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 164	Others that are not _too_ expensive: Inscriber Titlemotion - it's a plugin for Premiere and can be cheesy if you use standard presets. Beware - it is aimed at video (ie broadcast) output, so all titles are interlaced. Boris Title Toolkit - easy to use cut down version of Graffiti (note that this is a number of After Effects plugins). Boris Graffiti (or was that Grafitti?) - a powerful, vector based, titler - it often wins comparison tests with other titlers. Almost any compositing application (After Effects, Boris Red, Combustion, Digital Fusion) - but you need more time to fine tune the results. Regards, Julian

January 9th, 2004, 11:18 AM	#6
Ross Weinshenker Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Any, Where Posts: 54	here, take a look at this film here: http://www.undergroundfilm.org/films...cl?wid=1003626 How would you do the effects like the text flying back and stuff like that without taking FOREVER in Photoshop to create the titles and use motion to make them go back?

January 9th, 2004, 12:51 PM	#7
Julian Luttrell Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 164	Ross, there's no application with a "make cool text" button. It takes thoughtful design, consistent use throughout the video, and a careful eye for breaking down the final effect into a number of simpler effects that can be combined. Then build a template version, and reuse that by changing the letters and words. All (most of) your effort goes into the first one, with subsequent uses almost happening for free. Cool text is an art form, and the cooler it looks the longer it took to do. Regards, Julian

January 9th, 2004, 01:04 PM	#8
Ross Weinshenker Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Any, Where Posts: 54	Yeah that's what I was afraid of....but is there any way to manipulate the movement of the text like in that trailer I posted? Like so you don't have to do the motion on EVERY one? ........