Transferring my video to my computer... at DVinfo.net

Frank Kotora · January 5th, 2004, 09:35 PM

Alright guys I'm pretty damn confused about this now. I always thought it would be a fairly simple process, but apparently I was wrong. I have my VX2100 here...I installed my brand new Firewire card (it's a SIIG 1394 3-Port PCI I/O Adapter)...started up my computer again...it recognized the new hardware and updated automatically...but when I plug the Firewire cord into my camera...nothing happens. I thought it would detect it's presence automatically.

What am I supposed to do? I have my camera with a tape in it with maybe 10 minutes of footage that I'm planning to transfer to my computer to start fooling around with it. I'm gonna unplug the firewire cord from it right now until you guys can give me some advice, cause I'm truly lost. Where do I need to go once I have my camera with footage, my functioning firewird card, and my firewire cable that is plugged in only to the card and not the camera? How do I captuer this footage properly? Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Don Bloom · January 5th, 2004, 10:13 PM

Frank,
Do you have an editing software or capture program installed?

I.E.; Vegas Video,Sceneanlyzier,Premiere,Avid Express,Studio8

If so, which one as that would help to determine what the problem might be.

Don

Frank Kotora · January 5th, 2004, 10:15 PM

Christ almighty this is frustrating the hell out of me. Please guys I need your help. I even download Windows Movie Maker but even that damn thing won't recognize that my camera is plugged in. What the hell. This is absolutely infuriating. Help please help.

Frank Kotora · January 5th, 2004, 10:17 PM

I didn't have an editing program until I just downloaded Windows Movie Maker. I know it's crap but I just wanna get this video onto my computer somehow, and I figure it would be pretty simple to figure out. Yet when I try to capture the video it doesn't recognize that my camera is plugged in and turned on in VCR mode.

Frederic Segard · January 5th, 2004, 10:19 PM

What operating system do you have installed? Some OS/configuration will recognize the IEEE-1394 but may not detect the camcorder.

Frank Kotora · January 5th, 2004, 10:23 PM

I'm using Windows XP.

Frederic Segard · January 5th, 2004, 10:35 PM

Hmmm! You got me! XP will likely detect a fly landing on your keyboard! So it's surely going to detect a camcorder hooked on a functional Firewire card. Do you have another way to test your IEEE-1394 card? Have you tried changing cable? Bad cables are not uncommon.

Frank Kotora · January 5th, 2004, 10:41 PM

That's what I was thinking. My device manager says my IEEE card is working properly and everything. It has to be the cable. Only problem is I only have this one cable. I hope that's what it is though so it can be easily resolved. Why are firewire cable so unreliable? I would've thought that they'd be hella reliable, even more than USB or something. Please god let it just be the stupid cable.

Frederic Segard · January 5th, 2004, 10:49 PM

I've encountered many people that had bad cables. Most cables shipped with cards are OK, but some manufacturers cut on costs and skimp out on the cable. In any event, having a nice shielded cable will not be a bad investment. Even if it turns out not to be the cable.

Another way to rule out the camcorder as the problem, go to a friends house, or a computer shop that you know have IEEE-1394 enabled computers, and try it there.

Frank Kotora · January 5th, 2004, 11:02 PM

The cable I have is a 6ft IEEE 1934 Firewire Cable from a company called Manhattan. I bought it from a local computer shop that I have quite a bit of faith in. Doesn't change the fact thought that they might just sell crappy firewire cables, seeing as how I've never bought one from them before. Or perhaps I just got a shoddy one. Hell.

Arnaldo Paixao · January 6th, 2004, 04:24 AM

Switch on the PC.
Plug the cable into the camera.
Turn the camera on in VCR mode.
WIN XP should detect it.

If that doesn't work, try installing the Firewire card in another PCI slot.

And as sugested earlier, try another cable.

If possible try your camera and cable in another PC.

Good luck and best regards,
Arnaldo

Don Bloom · January 6th, 2004, 05:55 AM

You might also want to turn the camera to the VCR mode BEFORE you open up the NLE. Sometimes the computer systems just get finicky.
Good Luck,
Don

Chad Cleveland · January 6th, 2004, 02:01 PM

i've used movie maker before - just messing around - xp should, when you turn your camera on, recognize the attatched device - it will throw up a dialog box asking you what you want to do - capture video, capture pics, etc...much like the prompt when you put a cd in the drive -- IT HAS TO BE THE CABLE!!!

Gints Klimanis · January 6th, 2004, 03:00 PM

Test the cable. Try using another device on preferably another computer. Then, try that device on your WinXP computer.

I just did a Firewire "A/V thru" transfer using my VX2000 on a WinXP computer, using Pinnacle Studio8 to manage the transfer.
I remember that the VX2000 showed up as a device alongside
the disks and stuff. I don't remember this happening as soon
as I plugged in the VX2000, but I think it happened when I switch the unit to VCR mode.

Usually, I use an old JVC miniDV camera for my Firewire transfers. I don't think that the JVC is ever detected by WinXP. It doesn't cause pop-up device detection dialog box, and it doesn't show up as a device. Nonetheless, Studio8 can control it for Firewire capture.

Ross Weinshenker · January 7th, 2004, 11:00 AM

On some cameras there is a DV-Output option you must turn on in the menus (the Canon XM series has this...). Check on your menus to see if there is a DV-Out option. Otherwise, GET A NEW CABLE!

January 5th, 2004, 09:35 PM	#1
Frank Kotora Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: University of Alabama Posts: 25	Transferring my video to my computer... Alright guys I'm pretty damn confused about this now. I always thought it would be a fairly simple process, but apparently I was wrong. I have my VX2100 here...I installed my brand new Firewire card (it's a SIIG 1394 3-Port PCI I/O Adapter)...started up my computer again...it recognized the new hardware and updated automatically...but when I plug the Firewire cord into my camera...nothing happens. I thought it would detect it's presence automatically. What am I supposed to do? I have my camera with a tape in it with maybe 10 minutes of footage that I'm planning to transfer to my computer to start fooling around with it. I'm gonna unplug the firewire cord from it right now until you guys can give me some advice, cause I'm truly lost. Where do I need to go once I have my camera with footage, my functioning firewird card, and my firewire cable that is plugged in only to the card and not the camera? How do I captuer this footage properly? Your help would be greatly appreciated. __________________ History does not repeat itself.

January 5th, 2004, 10:15 PM	#3
Frank Kotora Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: University of Alabama Posts: 25	Christ almighty this is frustrating the hell out of me. Please guys I need your help. I even download Windows Movie Maker but even that damn thing won't recognize that my camera is plugged in. What the hell. This is absolutely infuriating. Help please help. __________________ History does not repeat itself.

January 5th, 2004, 10:17 PM	#4
Frank Kotora Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: University of Alabama Posts: 25	I didn't have an editing program until I just downloaded Windows Movie Maker. I know it's crap but I just wanna get this video onto my computer somehow, and I figure it would be pretty simple to figure out. Yet when I try to capture the video it doesn't recognize that my camera is plugged in and turned on in VCR mode. __________________ History does not repeat itself.

January 5th, 2004, 10:23 PM	#6
Frank Kotora Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: University of Alabama Posts: 25	I'm using Windows XP. __________________ History does not repeat itself.

January 5th, 2004, 10:41 PM	#8
Frank Kotora Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: University of Alabama Posts: 25	That's what I was thinking. My device manager says my IEEE card is working properly and everything. It has to be the cable. Only problem is I only have this one cable. I hope that's what it is though so it can be easily resolved. Why are firewire cable so unreliable? I would've thought that they'd be hella reliable, even more than USB or something. Please god let it just be the stupid cable. __________________ History does not repeat itself.

January 5th, 2004, 10:13 PM	#2
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Frank, Do you have an editing software or capture program installed? I.E.; Vegas Video,Sceneanlyzier,Premiere,Avid Express,Studio8 If so, which one as that would help to determine what the problem might be. Don

January 5th, 2004, 10:19 PM	#5
Frederic Segard Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 209	What operating system do you have installed? Some OS/configuration will recognize the IEEE-1394 but may not detect the camcorder.

January 5th, 2004, 10:35 PM	#7
Frederic Segard Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 209	Hmmm! You got me! XP will likely detect a fly landing on your keyboard! So it's surely going to detect a camcorder hooked on a functional Firewire card. Do you have another way to test your IEEE-1394 card? Have you tried changing cable? Bad cables are not uncommon.

January 5th, 2004, 10:49 PM	#9
Frederic Segard Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 209	I've encountered many people that had bad cables. Most cables shipped with cards are OK, but some manufacturers cut on costs and skimp out on the cable. In any event, having a nice shielded cable will not be a bad investment. Even if it turns out not to be the cable. Another way to rule out the camcorder as the problem, go to a friends house, or a computer shop that you know have IEEE-1394 enabled computers, and try it there.

January 5th, 2004, 11:02 PM	#10
Frank Kotora Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: University of Alabama Posts: 25	The cable I have is a 6ft IEEE 1934 Firewire Cable from a company called Manhattan. I bought it from a local computer shop that I have quite a bit of faith in. Doesn't change the fact thought that they might just sell crappy firewire cables, seeing as how I've never bought one from them before. Or perhaps I just got a shoddy one. Hell. __________________ History does not repeat itself.

January 6th, 2004, 04:24 AM	#11
Arnaldo Paixao Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vimeiro - Portugal Posts: 255	Switch on the PC. Plug the cable into the camera. Turn the camera on in VCR mode. WIN XP should detect it. If that doesn't work, try installing the Firewire card in another PCI slot. And as sugested earlier, try another cable. If possible try your camera and cable in another PC. Good luck and best regards, Arnaldo

January 6th, 2004, 05:55 AM	#12
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	You might also want to turn the camera to the VCR mode BEFORE you open up the NLE. Sometimes the computer systems just get finicky. Good Luck, Don

January 6th, 2004, 02:01 PM	#13
Chad Cleveland New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Auburn, AL (USA) Posts: 8	i've used movie maker before - just messing around - xp should, when you turn your camera on, recognize the attatched device - it will throw up a dialog box asking you what you want to do - capture video, capture pics, etc...much like the prompt when you put a cd in the drive -- IT HAS TO BE THE CABLE!!!

January 6th, 2004, 03:00 PM	#14
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Test the cable. Try using another device on preferably another computer. Then, try that device on your WinXP computer. I just did a Firewire "A/V thru" transfer using my VX2000 on a WinXP computer, using Pinnacle Studio8 to manage the transfer. I remember that the VX2000 showed up as a device alongside the disks and stuff. I don't remember this happening as soon as I plugged in the VX2000, but I think it happened when I switch the unit to VCR mode. Usually, I use an old JVC miniDV camera for my Firewire transfers. I don't think that the JVC is ever detected by WinXP. It doesn't cause pop-up device detection dialog box, and it doesn't show up as a device. Nonetheless, Studio8 can control it for Firewire capture.

January 7th, 2004, 11:00 AM	#15
Ross Weinshenker Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Any, Where Posts: 54	On some cameras there is a DV-Output option you must turn on in the menus (the Canon XM series has this...). Check on your menus to see if there is a DV-Out option. Otherwise, GET A NEW CABLE!