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Charles King · September 24th, 2003, 03:08 AM

I've narrowed it down to ATI and Geforce 4 series. Which one out weighs the other in terms of performance? I'm building two platforms.

Glenn Chan · September 24th, 2003, 09:38 AM

For the next generation of DX9 games (Half-Life 2) the ATI is definitely faster. For the current generation of games both cards run neck to neck. Check out anandtech.com, arstechnica.com, etc.

Charles King · September 24th, 2003, 09:53 AM

Thanks Glen, will do.

Brian Huey · September 24th, 2003, 04:26 PM

Glenn summed it up well, I'd look at the ATI 9600pro. Seems to be the best price/performance option going.

www.newegg.com is a great place to buy online, not sure what the shipping to Europe would be or if they sell overseas though.

9600pro at Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...codevalue=4808

Careful though, the first one listed only has 200mHz DDR RAM on it (they call it the EZ version) which isn't to great the real 9600pro has 300mHz DDR RAM.

Cheers,
Huey

Alex Taylor · September 24th, 2003, 07:46 PM

I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro and it's amazing. I highly recommend it if you're into gaming. I can run BF1942 with all the settings cranked and it runs like butter. I've got an Athlon 2500+ with 1GB of RAM.

Charles King · September 24th, 2003, 07:57 PM

Thanks guys. So Huey, there are two versions of the pro then? one is with the 200mhz and the other is 300mhz. Thanks. I'll get the 300mhz. Is there any real significant difference though? Would I be able to see it?This is for the 9600 pro right? ThenI might as well get the 9800pro.

Brian Huey · September 24th, 2003, 10:07 PM

Right, there are two versions of the 9600pro being offered by a company called PowerColor, one is the 'EZ' version running with the memory running at the slower 200mHz speed. I don't know if any other manufacturers are doing this, but it is something to watch out for since it does make a fair amount of difference.

The 9600Pro is around $160-175 at Newegg
The 9800Pro is around $300-350 at Newegg

If you have the money and want the best definitely go with the 9800Pro, I just graduated from college though and don't have a job yet (Cody's plans have been keeping me busy!) so if it were me I would go with the 9600Pro (I actually got a 9500Pro a few months ago that's been working nicely. It was the model before the 9600Pro)

Article from Anandtech on an early comparison of video cards with Halflife 2 (one of the first next gen games as Glenn put it) that shows how the 9600Pro compares with the 9800Pro:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1863

Cheers,
Huey

Charles King · September 25th, 2003, 03:38 AM

"(Cody's plans have been keeping me busy!)"

So, you bought his plans. Fantastic. Let me know how it turned out, then I will be wanting some pics too ;)

Thanks for the link too.

Stephen Sobel · September 25th, 2003, 05:43 PM

Is the ATI 9800 Pro compatible with Vegas?

Brian Huey · September 25th, 2003, 06:07 PM

I'm sure the ATI 9800Pro is compatible with Vegas, I've used the demo on my ATI 9500Pro without a problem. And you can hook up two monitors to the cards.

Charles: I was out playing with the rig a little bit ago, video taping my roomates throwing a frisby. Was getting a bit of side to side banking when turning though, guess I need to increase the drop time a bit, forgot to check it before practicing! Having fun learning though.

Cheers,
Huey

Yi Fong Yu · October 2nd, 2003, 12:02 PM

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTI5

Charles King · October 2nd, 2003, 12:59 PM

Yi Fong Yu : That article looks awesome. Thanks for the update.

"Charles: I was out playing with the rig a little bit ago, video taping my roomates throwing a frisby. Was getting a bit of side to side banking when turning though, guess I need to increase the drop time a bit, forgot to check it before practicing! Having fun learning though. "

Hey Brian, com'on over the the HBS forum so we can discuss the is
sue you're having with the stabilizer. Don't forget, pics my friend.

Yi Fong Yu · October 2nd, 2003, 09:10 PM

no prob. you should check that site @least once a day if you're a computer 'nut' like me =D. they awesome tech news (uptodate stuff) for your gaming pleasures. check out their main page too there's countless other reviews/comparisons (enough to last you your lifetime). if you click on the 'links' on the left hand side (navigation bar) you'll get a list of a community of websites i'm sure you'll NEVER have time to read through. most of them post a variable of the OCP site. some emphasize games some emphasize other stuff. sheck out http://www.bluesnews.com for the latest in nearly everything.

September 24th, 2003, 03:08 AM	#1
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	Recommended Game Card I've narrowed it down to ATI and Geforce 4 series. Which one out weighs the other in terms of performance? I'm building two platforms. __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

September 24th, 2003, 09:53 AM	#3
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	Thanks Glen, will do. __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

September 24th, 2003, 07:46 PM	#5
Alex Taylor Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 390	I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro and it's amazing. I highly recommend it if you're into gaming. I can run BF1942 with all the settings cranked and it runs like butter. I've got an Athlon 2500+ with 1GB of RAM. __________________ alextaylor.org

September 24th, 2003, 07:57 PM	#6
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	Thanks guys. So Huey, there are two versions of the pro then? one is with the 200mhz and the other is 300mhz. Thanks. I'll get the 300mhz. Is there any real significant difference though? Would I be able to see it?This is for the 9600 pro right? ThenI might as well get the 9800pro. __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

September 25th, 2003, 03:38 AM	#8
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	"(Cody's plans have been keeping me busy!)" So, you bought his plans. Fantastic. Let me know how it turned out, then I will be wanting some pics too ;) Thanks for the link too. __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

September 24th, 2003, 09:38 AM	#2
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	For the next generation of DX9 games (Half-Life 2) the ATI is definitely faster. For the current generation of games both cards run neck to neck. Check out anandtech.com, arstechnica.com, etc.

September 24th, 2003, 04:26 PM	#4
Brian Huey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle , WA Posts: 184	Glenn summed it up well, I'd look at the ATI 9600pro. Seems to be the best price/performance option going. www.newegg.com is a great place to buy online, not sure what the shipping to Europe would be or if they sell overseas though. 9600pro at Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...codevalue=4808 Careful though, the first one listed only has 200mHz DDR RAM on it (they call it the EZ version) which isn't to great the real 9600pro has 300mHz DDR RAM. Cheers, Huey

September 24th, 2003, 10:07 PM	#7
Brian Huey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle , WA Posts: 184	Right, there are two versions of the 9600pro being offered by a company called PowerColor, one is the 'EZ' version running with the memory running at the slower 200mHz speed. I don't know if any other manufacturers are doing this, but it is something to watch out for since it does make a fair amount of difference. The 9600Pro is around $160-175 at Newegg The 9800Pro is around $300-350 at Newegg If you have the money and want the best definitely go with the 9800Pro, I just graduated from college though and don't have a job yet (Cody's plans have been keeping me busy!) so if it were me I would go with the 9600Pro (I actually got a 9500Pro a few months ago that's been working nicely. It was the model before the 9600Pro) Article from Anandtech on an early comparison of video cards with Halflife 2 (one of the first next gen games as Glenn put it) that shows how the 9600Pro compares with the 9800Pro: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1863 Cheers, Huey

September 25th, 2003, 05:43 PM	#9
Stephen Sobel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 408	Is the ATI 9800 Pro compatible with Vegas?

September 25th, 2003, 06:07 PM	#10
Brian Huey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle , WA Posts: 184	I'm sure the ATI 9800Pro is compatible with Vegas, I've used the demo on my ATI 9500Pro without a problem. And you can hook up two monitors to the cards. Charles: I was out playing with the rig a little bit ago, video taping my roomates throwing a frisby. Was getting a bit of side to side banking when turning though, guess I need to increase the drop time a bit, forgot to check it before practicing! Having fun learning though. Cheers, Huey

October 2nd, 2003, 12:02 PM	#11
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTI5 __________________ bow wow wow

October 2nd, 2003, 12:59 PM	#12
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	Yi Fong Yu : That article looks awesome. Thanks for the update. "Charles: I was out playing with the rig a little bit ago, video taping my roomates throwing a frisby. Was getting a bit of side to side banking when turning though, guess I need to increase the drop time a bit, forgot to check it before practicing! Having fun learning though. " Hey Brian, com'on over the the HBS forum so we can discuss the is sue you're having with the stabilizer. Don't forget, pics my friend. __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

October 2nd, 2003, 09:10 PM	#13
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	no prob. you should check that site @least once a day if you're a computer 'nut' like me =D. they awesome tech news (uptodate stuff) for your gaming pleasures. check out their main page too there's countless other reviews/comparisons (enough to last you your lifetime). if you click on the 'links' on the left hand side (navigation bar) you'll get a list of a community of websites i'm sure you'll NEVER have time to read through. most of them post a variable of the OCP site. some emphasize games some emphasize other stuff. sheck out http://www.bluesnews.com for the latest in nearly everything. __________________ bow wow wow