Mpeg encoding questions at DVinfo.net

Seth Peterson · July 14th, 2003, 10:31 PM

I've got a short I shot on a XL-1 and GL-1 both in progressive scan mode. I'm planning to use the short as a professional calling card.

I've got access to a Sony DRU 510a along with Premiere 6.5, Vegas+DVD, Ulead DVD Workshop, Easy CD Creator 6, DVDiT PE and maybe soon Procoder 1.5 (btw, Win XP is my OS). I'd like to do some tests onto a DVD-RW and burn my final product onto a DVD-R. I have been messing with Premiere's mpeg encoder. It seems pretty thorough. Anybody have any setting tips for a professional output through Premiere? Does Premiere's mpeg encoder suck and I just not know it? Any suggestions about the other software I have listed above?

Thanks for your comments

Seth Peterson

Rob Lohman · July 15th, 2003, 07:45 AM

I've never looked at Premiere or the Vegas encoder (both use
the MainConcept engine I think). Generally the line of best
encoders seem to be:

1. ProCoder (moderate price)
2. CCE (expensive)
3. TMPGEnc (very cheap)

Keep in mind that the most important thing is how it looks/works
for you and your eye!

Glen Elliott · July 15th, 2003, 07:51 AM

Procoder moderately priced?! Jeez, I thought it was expensive @ $600. Wonder what the CCE goes for, I couldn't find a price.

Rob Lohman · July 15th, 2003, 08:13 AM

That you can't find a price says enough... It is in the thousands
of dolars range. Trust me, $600 is very moderate especially
since it can convert a whole range of formats (not only mpeg[2]).

Ron Little · July 18th, 2003, 09:29 AM

If you use main concept go to their web site and get the patch.

It made a world of differance.

Rob Lohman · July 25th, 2003, 03:03 AM

Patch? For both Vegas and Premiere? Or...?

Edward Troxel · July 25th, 2003, 07:18 AM

Vegas patches to the Main Concept encoder come through Sonic Foundry (i.e. the last update to Vegas and DVDA included an update to the Main Concept encoder)

Joe Pasarela · July 25th, 2003, 10:55 AM

CCE Basic is only $58. It runs standalone or as a plugin for Premiere, and does a beautiful job of encoding DV footage. It'll only do 2-pass VBR, but I find that fine for my needs. Its fast as hell too.

JP

Rob Lohman · July 30th, 2003, 01:25 PM

Are you referring to TMPGEnc?? To my knowledge CCE is a bit
more expensive. Or are you talking about CCE Lite?

Joe Pasarela · July 30th, 2003, 02:17 PM

There is no more CCE Lite. CCE Basic is a new product, and is a stripped down version of CCE SP which sells for $58. Check out http://www.cinemacraft.com/eng/ccebasic.html for info.

JP

Rob Lohman · July 30th, 2003, 02:33 PM

Thanks for bringing that to my/our attention!

July 14th, 2003, 10:31 PM	#1
Seth Peterson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 57	Mpeg encoding questions I've got a short I shot on a XL-1 and GL-1 both in progressive scan mode. I'm planning to use the short as a professional calling card. I've got access to a Sony DRU 510a along with Premiere 6.5, Vegas+DVD, Ulead DVD Workshop, Easy CD Creator 6, DVDiT PE and maybe soon Procoder 1.5 (btw, Win XP is my OS). I'd like to do some tests onto a DVD-RW and burn my final product onto a DVD-R. I have been messing with Premiere's mpeg encoder. It seems pretty thorough. Anybody have any setting tips for a professional output through Premiere? Does Premiere's mpeg encoder suck and I just not know it? Any suggestions about the other software I have listed above? Thanks for your comments Seth Peterson

July 15th, 2003, 07:45 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I've never looked at Premiere or the Vegas encoder (both use the MainConcept engine I think). Generally the line of best encoders seem to be: 1. ProCoder (moderate price) 2. CCE (expensive) 3. TMPGEnc (very cheap) Keep in mind that the most important thing is how it looks/works for you and your eye! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 15th, 2003, 08:13 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That you can't find a price says enough... It is in the thousands of dolars range. Trust me, $600 is very moderate especially since it can convert a whole range of formats (not only mpeg[2]). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 25th, 2003, 03:03 AM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Patch? For both Vegas and Premiere? Or...? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 30th, 2003, 01:25 PM	#9
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Are you referring to TMPGEnc?? To my knowledge CCE is a bit more expensive. Or are you talking about CCE Lite? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 15th, 2003, 07:51 AM	#3
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Procoder moderately priced?! Jeez, I thought it was expensive @ $600. Wonder what the CCE goes for, I couldn't find a price.

July 18th, 2003, 09:29 AM	#5
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	If you use main concept go to their web site and get the patch. It made a world of differance.

July 25th, 2003, 07:18 AM	#7
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas patches to the Main Concept encoder come through Sonic Foundry (i.e. the last update to Vegas and DVDA included an update to the Main Concept encoder)

July 25th, 2003, 10:55 AM	#8
Joe Pasarela New Boot Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 16	CCE Basic is only $58. It runs standalone or as a plugin for Premiere, and does a beautiful job of encoding DV footage. It'll only do 2-pass VBR, but I find that fine for my needs. Its fast as hell too. JP

July 30th, 2003, 02:17 PM	#10
Joe Pasarela New Boot Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 16	There is no more CCE Lite. CCE Basic is a new product, and is a stripped down version of CCE SP which sells for $58. Check out http://www.cinemacraft.com/eng/ccebasic.html for info. JP

July 30th, 2003, 02:33 PM	#11
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Thanks for bringing that to my/our attention! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors