Quad Core - ohh, JOY! Q9450@3.4ghz

Noa Put · April 16th, 2008, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yang Wen

I'm looking to upgrade my editing machine: A P4 3.2ghz HT ... Think I should see an improvement?

Not if you buy a P4 3.4ghz HT instead :D
Just google for processor review or benchmarks, you can also take a look on tom's hardware site which has a big comparison chart for different processors.

Lars Siden · April 17th, 2008, 12:55 AM

Quad cores are really a JOY when working with Adobe products! I render a complete DVD(PAL) at 13 minutes - even noise reduction filters don't take forever!

// Lazze

Noa Put · April 17th, 2008, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lars Siden

Quad cores are really a JOY when working with Adobe products! I render a complete DVD(PAL) at 13 minutes - even noise reduction filters don't take forever!

// Lazze

Lars, a dvd can contain 1 hour, 2 hours or more so render times are dependable on the length of your source file. How long was the avi file that took 13minutes to render?

Lars Siden · April 17th, 2008, 11:24 AM

Noa,

About 54mins.

// Lz

Mario Salazar · June 20th, 2008, 09:49 AM

Great thread Lars!

I have a system that I am overclocking and some say not to overclock (thread is on this forum). Some say stability is key. I really don't understand why people always think of overclocking as unstable. Extreme overclocking yes, but moderate no. The key is in the components.

Anyways, can you tell me why you chose an X48 over a X38 or P35? I heard the performance difference was negligable unless you wanted to crossfire.

Regards,
Mario

Lars Siden · June 24th, 2008, 12:19 AM

Mario,

I picked this DQ6-X48 mobo after having read several tests where they overclocked the CPU to 3.2/3.4/3.6 on this mobo. The DQ6-X48 got the best results on both speed and stability.

My pooter is running 24/7 more or less and I haven't had any stability/heat issues.

// Lazze

Robert Hruska · June 24th, 2008, 12:41 AM

I got myself a quad (9300), and I am very pleased with the speed. It is noticeably faster than my old P4 2.8Ghz. Honestly, it's greasy smooth, even with Vista. I got 4gb of RAM though. :) Hey, I think it was like $80.

Thomas Smet · June 24th, 2008, 11:07 AM

What about actual editing performance with the quad cpu's? How many layers can you guys get in realtime? In the RT department Premiere always seemed kind of behind other nle's when I tried it on an older P4 3.2 ghz system. Will Premiere eat up anything you can throw at it on a quad core system or does it still seem to chug a bit?

Lars Siden · July 22nd, 2008, 03:01 AM

Thomas,

Having used PPro CS3 with a Quad CPU for a while now I can give you some more info.

1. When exporting, SD material uses the cpu more effecient(ie closer to 100% on all cores). When exporting HD material the usage is about 85% per core
2. All filters/effects behave differently in PPro, some use the cores really good, some does not - some mixes of effects uses all cores... so alas there are no straightforward answer

The overall editing experience is greatly enhanced when having quad cores and lots of memory. I haven't needed to stop and let PPro "work" - I can see that it does things in the background - but I can continue working. The only downside is that now I want MORE - I want 8 cores at 8 ghz :-)

I have high hopes for the comming 64 bit suite from Adobe - I belive we will see much better memory handling and hopefully more multi-core aware effects.

My next upgrade:

Dual SSD 128gb in stripe making a 256gb stripe boot/windows/temp volume with a read speed of 300mb/sec write 140mb/sec - coming in november or so...

// Lazze

Paul Wags · July 22nd, 2008, 05:42 AM

Hey welcome to the world of QUADS.

I have been running a Q6600 2.4ghz over clocked to 3.2 Ghz with XP & 2 gigs of ram for some months now. With EDIUS 4.60 and single Sata drives here is what I can do.

16 tracks of mini DV 16.9 in pips realtime.
9 tracks of HDV 1440/1080 in pips realtime.

HDV to HDV m2t to send back to the camera runs at about 1.1
1 minute of HDV to MPEG2 DVD takes 30 seconds.
1 minute of DV to MPEG2 DVD takes 15 seconds.

With Photoshop CS3 it takes about 30 seconds to open a 950 meg multilayed 120cm/80cm psd file.

Who needs VISTA...ha ha...

Robert M Wright · July 23rd, 2008, 07:29 AM

For anyone looking for a Q9450, try Micro Center. Their price on a boxed Q9450 is a lot lower than any other reputable computer parts retailer right now:

http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0287628

Eric Lagerlof · July 24th, 2008, 12:29 AM

I just got a 9450 with 4 gigs of ram. Very nice. I'm using Newteks' Speed Edit to edit HDV in an SD project for a style of editing that uses 1 hdv camera angle for both 'wide shots' and 'close-ups'. Anyway, it's fun to set Adobe Encore transcoding .avi's to .mpegs while at the same time editing HDV footage in realtime including overlays and a lot of resizing/positioning of the frame. Rendering Particle Illusion animations is such a breeze...

Can't wait to get my Cinema 4D installed and rendering! -:)

Robert Hruska · September 29th, 2008, 12:31 AM

Mine doesn't play back Vegas 7 in quite real time. It tends to hang up on scene changes, and the longer it goes, the worse it gets. Haven't done any exporting.

Louis Maddalena · September 29th, 2008, 12:55 AM

I used to have a quad 2 years back, but upgraded to a 8 core system... you think quad is fast...

Don Boosinger · September 30th, 2008, 04:47 AM

Robert M
"For anyone looking for a Q9450, try Micro Center."

Too bad there's not a store in my area.

April 17th, 2008, 12:55 AM	#17
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	Quad cores are really a JOY when working with Adobe products! I render a complete DVD(PAL) at 13 minutes - even noise reduction filters don't take forever! // Lazze __________________ Sony HDR-CX130,Canon 5DMKII,i7 930@4.0, 12gb memory, 3x SSD + 2x1Tb(stripe), Geforce 480, Dual 24", Win 7 x64

April 17th, 2008, 11:24 AM	#19
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	Noa, About 54mins. // Lz __________________ Sony HDR-CX130,Canon 5DMKII,i7 930@4.0, 12gb memory, 3x SSD + 2x1Tb(stripe), Geforce 480, Dual 24", Win 7 x64

June 24th, 2008, 12:19 AM	#21
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	Mario, I picked this DQ6-X48 mobo after having read several tests where they overclocked the CPU to 3.2/3.4/3.6 on this mobo. The DQ6-X48 got the best results on both speed and stability. My pooter is running 24/7 more or less and I haven't had any stability/heat issues. // Lazze __________________ Sony HDR-CX130,Canon 5DMKII,i7 930@4.0, 12gb memory, 3x SSD + 2x1Tb(stripe), Geforce 480, Dual 24", Win 7 x64

July 22nd, 2008, 03:01 AM	#24
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	Thomas, Having used PPro CS3 with a Quad CPU for a while now I can give you some more info. 1. When exporting, SD material uses the cpu more effecient(ie closer to 100% on all cores). When exporting HD material the usage is about 85% per core 2. All filters/effects behave differently in PPro, some use the cores really good, some does not - some mixes of effects uses all cores... so alas there are no straightforward answer The overall editing experience is greatly enhanced when having quad cores and lots of memory. I haven't needed to stop and let PPro "work" - I can see that it does things in the background - but I can continue working. The only downside is that now I want MORE - I want 8 cores at 8 ghz :-) I have high hopes for the comming 64 bit suite from Adobe - I belive we will see much better memory handling and hopefully more multi-core aware effects. My next upgrade: Dual SSD 128gb in stripe making a 256gb stripe boot/windows/temp volume with a read speed of 300mb/sec write 140mb/sec - coming in november or so... // Lazze __________________ Sony HDR-CX130,Canon 5DMKII,i7 930@4.0, 12gb memory, 3x SSD + 2x1Tb(stripe), Geforce 480, Dual 24", Win 7 x64

June 20th, 2008, 09:49 AM	#20
Mario Salazar Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 40	Great thread Lars! I have a system that I am overclocking and some say not to overclock (thread is on this forum). Some say stability is key. I really don't understand why people always think of overclocking as unstable. Extreme overclocking yes, but moderate no. The key is in the components. Anyways, can you tell me why you chose an X48 over a X38 or P35? I heard the performance difference was negligable unless you wanted to crossfire. Regards, Mario

June 24th, 2008, 12:41 AM	#22
Robert Hruska Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 29	I got myself a quad (9300), and I am very pleased with the speed. It is noticeably faster than my old P4 2.8Ghz. Honestly, it's greasy smooth, even with Vista. I got 4gb of RAM though. :) Hey, I think it was like $80.

June 24th, 2008, 11:07 AM	#23
Thomas Smet Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,719	What about actual editing performance with the quad cpu's? How many layers can you guys get in realtime? In the RT department Premiere always seemed kind of behind other nle's when I tried it on an older P4 3.2 ghz system. Will Premiere eat up anything you can throw at it on a quad core system or does it still seem to chug a bit?

July 22nd, 2008, 05:42 AM	#25
Paul Wags Ruler of the DownUnder UnderWorld Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cairns- Queensland - Australia Posts: 248	Hey welcome to the world of QUADS. I have been running a Q6600 2.4ghz over clocked to 3.2 Ghz with XP & 2 gigs of ram for some months now. With EDIUS 4.60 and single Sata drives here is what I can do. 16 tracks of mini DV 16.9 in pips realtime. 9 tracks of HDV 1440/1080 in pips realtime. HDV to HDV m2t to send back to the camera runs at about 1.1 1 minute of HDV to MPEG2 DVD takes 30 seconds. 1 minute of DV to MPEG2 DVD takes 15 seconds. With Photoshop CS3 it takes about 30 seconds to open a 950 meg multilayed 120cm/80cm psd file. Who needs VISTA...ha ha...

July 23rd, 2008, 07:29 AM	#26
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	For anyone looking for a Q9450, try Micro Center. Their price on a boxed Q9450 is a lot lower than any other reputable computer parts retailer right now: http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0287628

July 24th, 2008, 12:29 AM	#27
Eric Lagerlof Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 348	I just got a 9450 with 4 gigs of ram. Very nice. I'm using Newteks' Speed Edit to edit HDV in an SD project for a style of editing that uses 1 hdv camera angle for both 'wide shots' and 'close-ups'. Anyway, it's fun to set Adobe Encore transcoding .avi's to .mpegs while at the same time editing HDV footage in realtime including overlays and a lot of resizing/positioning of the frame. Rendering Particle Illusion animations is such a breeze... Can't wait to get my Cinema 4D installed and rendering! -:)

September 29th, 2008, 12:31 AM	#28
Robert Hruska Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 29	Mine doesn't play back Vegas 7 in quite real time. It tends to hang up on scene changes, and the longer it goes, the worse it gets. Haven't done any exporting.

September 29th, 2008, 12:55 AM	#29
Louis Maddalena Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NYC Area. Posts: 550	I used to have a quad 2 years back, but upgraded to a 8 core system... you think quad is fast...

September 30th, 2008, 04:47 AM	#30
Don Boosinger Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rohnert Park, Ca. Posts: 99	Robert M "For anyone looking for a Q9450, try Micro Center." Too bad there's not a store in my area.