Problem with WinMedia Player at DVinfo.net

Andy Tejral · February 18th, 2008, 01:16 PM

As noted in another thread, I just built a new computer. It has windows and drivers on it at this point. No editing software, no other addons.

A bunch of video clips of various descriptions, well, AVI & WMV specifically don't play in WMP. I know that DV clips won't play without my Canopus codec but I'm baffled why WMVs won't play--don't they all use the same codec?

The screen comes up with mostly green colors if that is relevant. There are hints of a picture but mostly just shapes moving on the screen. Looks like its trying to use the wrong codec.

Yep, downloaded the latest ATI driver set. No change.

Is this a problem that I should resolve first or go on and install my editing stuff?

Steven Davis · February 18th, 2008, 01:38 PM

What Windows version. If VISTA, I've heard all kinds of nightmares regarding codecs etc.

Andy Tejral · February 18th, 2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Davis

What Windows version. If VISTA, I've heard all kinds of nightmares regarding codecs etc.

Oops, it was obvious to me that I'm using XP Pro. (What, you guys can't read minds?)

WMP is version 9. Oh, maybe that's the problem. Its v11 that I find annoying but I think 10 is OK.

Steven Davis · February 18th, 2008, 02:12 PM

Then I would say you are missing something, or you have a corrupt version of something. If the machine is new, the installation in new, then I imagine something is not installed right or not at all, such as a codec.

John Miller · February 18th, 2008, 02:18 PM

There's something *very* wrong if you cannot play DV AVIs on your XP system without the Canopus DV codec.

There's something *very* wrong if you cannot play WMV files on your XP system with WMP (9, 10 or 11).

What other codecs have you got? You haven't done the unforgivable and installed a codec pack, per chance?

Andy Tejral · February 19th, 2008, 09:51 PM

Updated to wmp v10 and all seems well. I seem to recall there was an actual difference between 9 & 10.

11 on the other hand, is really annoying. I'm doing better with it but I still like 10 better. I tried the 'rollback' procedure and couldn't get it to work. Went back to 11 on those computers.

J. Stephen McDonald · March 3rd, 2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy Tejral

Updated to wmp v10 and all seems well. I seem to recall there was an actual difference between 9 & 10. WMP 11 on the other hand, is really annoying. I'm doing better with it but I still like 10 better. I tried the 'rollback' procedure and couldn't get it to work. Went back to 11 on those computers.

It seems hard to imagine, but it's true, that WMP 10 worked with DV that was imported with Windows Movie Maker or any of my other capturing programs, but WMP 11 does not play them. It gives a pop-up saying that it doesn't read the encoding. Also, MPC, Real Player and Windows Movie Maker, will not play them, even those that WMM imported itself. I'm pleased that Nero Showtime2 and my Ulead video editor will play all these videos, without a glitch. This includes MOV and MVI and anything else I've downloaded.

John Miller · March 3rd, 2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Stephen McDonald

It seems hard to imagine, but it's true, that WMP 10 worked with DV that was imported with Windows Movie Maker or any of my other capturing programs, but WMP 11 does not play them. It gives a pop-up saying that it doesn't read the encoding.

Is that on the same hardware?

One thing I have noticed over the years with WMP9, 10 and 11 is that Type-1 DV AVI files may not play whereas Type-2 will.

I have successfully tracked this down to particular audio chipsets (it has happened on a Gateway desktop, a Thinkpad laptop and a Dell laptop - all with the same chipsets). When I disable the audio hardware, the problem goes away. I can also successfully play Type-1 files in GraphEdit on the same computer. So it isn't a straightforward DirectShow issue.

So, a weird interaction between WMP and particular chipset (a Crystal something-or-other and SigmaTel).

Cameron Naghibi · April 8th, 2008, 10:36 PM

buy/download XP codecs pack, thats what i did but it was vista codec pack

John Miller · April 9th, 2008, 04:41 PM

NEVER, EVER install codec packs. I have read of countless problems caused by them.

ONLY install individual codecs that you need.

Well, that's my view.

February 18th, 2008, 01:16 PM	#1
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Problem with WinMedia Player As noted in another thread, I just built a new computer. It has windows and drivers on it at this point. No editing software, no other addons. A bunch of video clips of various descriptions, well, AVI & WMV specifically don't play in WMP. I know that DV clips won't play without my Canopus codec but I'm baffled why WMVs won't play--don't they all use the same codec? The screen comes up with mostly green colors if that is relevant. There are hints of a picture but mostly just shapes moving on the screen. Looks like its trying to use the wrong codec. Yep, downloaded the latest ATI driver set. No change. Is this a problem that I should resolve first or go on and install my editing stuff? __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

February 18th, 2008, 01:38 PM	#2
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	What Windows version. If VISTA, I've heard all kinds of nightmares regarding codecs etc. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

February 18th, 2008, 02:12 PM	#4
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Then I would say you are missing something, or you have a corrupt version of something. If the machine is new, the installation in new, then I imagine something is not installed right or not at all, such as a codec. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

February 19th, 2008, 09:51 PM	#6
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Updated to wmp v10 and all seems well. I seem to recall there was an actual difference between 9 & 10. 11 on the other hand, is really annoying. I'm doing better with it but I still like 10 better. I tried the 'rollback' procedure and couldn't get it to work. Went back to 11 on those computers. __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

February 18th, 2008, 02:18 PM	#5
John Miller Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hillsborough, NC, USA Posts: 968	There's something very wrong if you cannot play DV AVIs on your XP system without the Canopus DV codec. There's something very wrong if you cannot play WMV files on your XP system with WMP (9, 10 or 11). What other codecs have you got? You haven't done the unforgivable and installed a codec pack, per chance?

April 8th, 2008, 10:36 PM	#9
Cameron Naghibi Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Glen Allen, VA Posts: 59	buy/download XP codecs pack, thats what i did but it was vista codec pack

April 9th, 2008, 04:41 PM	#10
John Miller Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hillsborough, NC, USA Posts: 968	NEVER, EVER install codec packs. I have read of countless problems caused by them. ONLY install individual codecs that you need. Well, that's my view.