Nikon D7000

Robin Hemerik · October 7th, 2010, 05:01 PM

This video seems less biased:
YouTube - Nikon D7000 vs. Canon EOS 7D

Prefer the 7D in this one, but it's a close call.

Paul Cook · October 7th, 2010, 06:11 PM

Its interesting that the few comments it got on youtube also claimed a canon victory but I have to ask on what grounds? All the canon shows is a more saturated image while the nikon is more flat - something you could either tweak in camera or in post. Other than that the images are almost impossible to pick apart - claiming a winner here is akin to awarding a prize fight via points decision based on the colour of the guys shorts.

I really want to see low light comparisons with prime lenses and the use of correct white balance WITH movement - cars, people etc.

And for the love of god would someone PLEASE F'ING PLEASE tell us what type of signal the d7000 outputs over HDMI while recording.

Peter Moretti · October 8th, 2010, 12:32 AM

All these tests, short films shot, days of using the camera, etc. and NO ONE thinks to check the HDMI?!??? One test had the camera mounted on a remote control *HELICOPTER*... BUT NO HDMI TEST!! At least stick it into a tv and see if the menus show.

Paul Cook · October 8th, 2010, 01:19 AM

LMAO - I searched all the way through the hundreds of posts on chase jarvis blog and it seems the test units they were given did not have active A/V out working - so maybe all these test cams out there dont have HDMI enabled so this is why it has not been reported?

One can only guess...unitl the units ship it seems :-(

Jim Forrest · October 8th, 2010, 07:33 AM

Dose anyone know the latest release date for the D7000? Mid October or the end of October?

Greg Laves · October 11th, 2010, 10:07 AM

The last reliable source I have found says delivery will be the end of October.

Paul Cook · October 11th, 2010, 06:48 PM

Well at this stage all I can say is the HDMI better be full HD out in record and/or that autofocus better be LIGHTYEARS ahead of the canon's - I was playing around with the 720p overcrank on my T2i on the weekend and Im back in love with it.

Cant believe this is is missing on the Nikon, along with 1080p 25...

Greg Laves · October 14th, 2010, 10:01 PM

We should know something soon. It sounds like the official release date is this Sunday. My local Best Buy has 3 D7000/18-105VR kits in stock but won't put them out yet. Others have had better luck. Best Buys in other cities are already selling them. Maybe we will have some answers soon.

Peter Moretti · October 15th, 2010, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Cook

Well at this stage all I can say is the HDMI better be full HD out in record and/or that autofocus better be LIGHTYEARS ahead of the canon's...

If not "Dead I want them Dead!" J/K but you get the point Nikon.

Marcus Martell · October 15th, 2010, 02:06 PM

Reading the magazines seems the Nikon will be on the same level of the CANONS.....
So what i gotta buy if i wanna shoot videos with these awesome hdslr? I have nikon lenses since i was a kid too.....

Paul Cook · October 16th, 2010, 03:05 AM

Please tell me Im misreading this or Nikon have not written it up correctly. The manual for the D7000 is available at: http://nikonusa.com/pdf/manuals/nopr..._ENnoprint.pdf

On page 57 about recording movies, the way I read it is you cant adjust the aperture in live view mode, the manual states to check the brightness before recording and that "if the picture is too bright or too dark, end live view and adjust aperture as necessary."

That CANT be right??? On the Canons not only can you adjust this in live view, you can adjust the aperture WHILE recording...are Nikon for real?

Also I've searched through that manual top to tail and NOWHERE can I find ANY FRIKING MENTION of what signal the HDMI outputs when in record mode. Seriously someone at that company needs to be slapped!

Ted Ramasola · October 16th, 2010, 03:14 AM

usually, from a "marketing" point, if your product CAN'T do it, DON'T mention it. Thats how to mislead in advertising and marketing.

I have read on another forum some early users mentioned this "in passing". The way Nikon communicates with lenses made it hard for them to have manual aperture during live view. Don't quote me on that though.

But even in DPreview, I scoured through their texts, and they never mentioned it that the camera has "FULL MANUAL" control in Movie mode. -they had the pre production model though, but its one reason I never bothered crossing my fingers for Nikon for this model.

Ted Ramasola · October 16th, 2010, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Martell

Reading the magazines seems the Nikon will be on the same level of the CANONS.....
So what i gotta buy if i wanna shoot videos with these awesome hdslr? I have nikon lenses since i was a kid too.....

Not this Nikon Marcus. If your really in a hurry to get a DSLR for video, the Canons still have the goods. Like you I have a lot of nikon glass, just get an adapter for it, theyre cheap.

I have tested and used the Nikons D90, D5000, Canon 5D, and 7D. I stuck with the 7D for video for now. Give it a few more months, then my recommendation might change.

Paul Cook · October 16th, 2010, 03:28 AM

OK so going out on a limb here and based on Nikons complete lack of understanding when it comes to anything video, lets surmise:

No standard frame rates in full HD (only 24p)
No over-crank ability in any mode
No HD signal over HDMI when recording (id almost put my house on it at this point)
No control of aperture while recording or even in live view

Standing pre-order...CANCELED!!!

Unless anything radical changes in the next few days, Nikon is at this point dead to me :-(

Ted Ramasola · October 16th, 2010, 03:32 AM

It won't change Paul.

It's already released in some stores and some users already posted their videos. Theres no "AHA!" moment in them whatsoever.

Do you have a DSLR right now?

October 8th, 2010, 12:32 AM	#33
Peter Moretti Trustee Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 1,259	All these tests, short films shot, days of using the camera, etc. and NO ONE thinks to check the HDMI?!??? One test had the camera mounted on a remote control HELICOPTER... BUT NO HDMI TEST!! At least stick it into a tv and see if the menus show. __________________ Avid Media Composer 3.1.3. Boris Red and Continuum Complete. Vegas 8.0c. TMPGEnc Xpress Pro 4.0

October 16th, 2010, 03:14 AM	#42
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	usually, from a "marketing" point, if your product CAN'T do it, DON'T mention it. Thats how to mislead in advertising and marketing. I have read on another forum some early users mentioned this "in passing". The way Nikon communicates with lenses made it hard for them to have manual aperture during live view. Don't quote me on that though. But even in DPreview, I scoured through their texts, and they never mentioned it that the camera has "FULL MANUAL" control in Movie mode. -they had the pre production model though, but its one reason I never bothered crossing my fingers for Nikon for this model. __________________ Ted Ramasola http://ramasolaproductions.com

October 16th, 2010, 03:32 AM	#45
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	It won't change Paul. It's already released in some stores and some users already posted their videos. Theres no "AHA!" moment in them whatsoever. Do you have a DSLR right now? __________________ Ted Ramasola http://ramasolaproductions.com

October 7th, 2010, 05:01 PM	#31
Robin Hemerik Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 36	This video seems less biased: YouTube - Nikon D7000 vs. Canon EOS 7D Prefer the 7D in this one, but it's a close call.

October 7th, 2010, 06:11 PM	#32
Paul Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	Its interesting that the few comments it got on youtube also claimed a canon victory but I have to ask on what grounds? All the canon shows is a more saturated image while the nikon is more flat - something you could either tweak in camera or in post. Other than that the images are almost impossible to pick apart - claiming a winner here is akin to awarding a prize fight via points decision based on the colour of the guys shorts. I really want to see low light comparisons with prime lenses and the use of correct white balance WITH movement - cars, people etc. And for the love of god would someone PLEASE F'ING PLEASE tell us what type of signal the d7000 outputs over HDMI while recording.

October 8th, 2010, 01:19 AM	#34
Paul Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	LMAO - I searched all the way through the hundreds of posts on chase jarvis blog and it seems the test units they were given did not have active A/V out working - so maybe all these test cams out there dont have HDMI enabled so this is why it has not been reported? One can only guess...unitl the units ship it seems :-(

October 8th, 2010, 07:33 AM	#35
Jim Forrest Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 368	Dose anyone know the latest release date for the D7000? Mid October or the end of October?

October 11th, 2010, 10:07 AM	#36
Greg Laves Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 640	The last reliable source I have found says delivery will be the end of October.

October 11th, 2010, 06:48 PM	#37
Paul Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	Well at this stage all I can say is the HDMI better be full HD out in record and/or that autofocus better be LIGHTYEARS ahead of the canon's - I was playing around with the 720p overcrank on my T2i on the weekend and Im back in love with it. Cant believe this is is missing on the Nikon, along with 1080p 25...

October 14th, 2010, 10:01 PM	#38
Greg Laves Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 640	We should know something soon. It sounds like the official release date is this Sunday. My local Best Buy has 3 D7000/18-105VR kits in stock but won't put them out yet. Others have had better luck. Best Buys in other cities are already selling them. Maybe we will have some answers soon.

October 15th, 2010, 02:06 PM	#40
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Reading the magazines seems the Nikon will be on the same level of the CANONS..... So what i gotta buy if i wanna shoot videos with these awesome hdslr? I have nikon lenses since i was a kid too.....

October 16th, 2010, 03:05 AM	#41
Paul Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	Please tell me Im misreading this or Nikon have not written it up correctly. The manual for the D7000 is available at: http://nikonusa.com/pdf/manuals/nopr..._ENnoprint.pdf On page 57 about recording movies, the way I read it is you cant adjust the aperture in live view mode, the manual states to check the brightness before recording and that "if the picture is too bright or too dark, end live view and adjust aperture as necessary." That CANT be right??? On the Canons not only can you adjust this in live view, you can adjust the aperture WHILE recording...are Nikon for real? Also I've searched through that manual top to tail and NOWHERE can I find ANY FRIKING MENTION of what signal the HDMI outputs when in record mode. Seriously someone at that company needs to be slapped!

October 16th, 2010, 03:28 AM	#44
Paul Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	OK so going out on a limb here and based on Nikons complete lack of understanding when it comes to anything video, lets surmise: No standard frame rates in full HD (only 24p) No over-crank ability in any mode No HD signal over HDMI when recording (id almost put my house on it at this point) No control of aperture while recording or even in live view Standing pre-order...CANCELED!!! Unless anything radical changes in the next few days, Nikon is at this point dead to me :-(