Nikon announcement on 20th November at DVinfo.net

Phil Bloom · November 7th, 2008, 04:00 PM

Rumour has reached me of this announcement. Whether it will be anything video related is anyone's guess.

Jay Bloomfield · November 7th, 2008, 08:06 PM

Nikon D4 DSLR.

Dan Chung · November 8th, 2008, 09:50 AM

Phil, I wouldn't get your hopes up. Are you going to try the 5DmkII with Nikon adapters?

Dan

Phil Bloom · November 8th, 2008, 04:03 PM

how good will it be with an adaptor?

Dan Chung · November 9th, 2008, 02:58 AM

Same as using Nikon lenses on a Nikon SLR, except no AF (no loss) and stopped down metering only (ie aperture closes as you stop it down) which is what you want for video. I believe that the 5DmkII will be a far far easier to use as a video camera using Nikon, Leica or Contax lenses than when using Canon EF lenses. With a Canon lens on the 5DmkII after you lock exposure you are done with aperture adjustment, it can't be done. With a manual lens (or Nikon af lens with aperture ring) you can continue to adjust aperture with the shutter speed and ISO locked because the camera has no way to adjust it. This is the same as the way manual lenses work on a Nikon D90.

The second major problem with the 5DmkII video is also partially overcome by using adapted lenses. The 5DmkII will try to use higher shutter speeds automatically when in bright light at wide aperture. My plan is to use a Vari ND filter Singh-Ray Filters: Vari-ND Variable Neutral Density Filter to force the camera to give me the slowest shutter speed ( probably a 30th in video ), and also a low ISO. Then I can quickly dial in the ND and open up the lens aperture at the same time to give me the effects I want in bright conditions.

You can't do any of this with a Canon EF lens.

I need to confirm all this when I get my hands on a production 5DmkII but so far everyone I know seems to believe this will work.

I think for my purposes a 5DmkII, Nikon lenses and a Vari ND filter might be the ideal solution for replacing my Brevis. I'll continue to use the EX3 and EX1 for more normal stuff and hope that Nikon bring out a 5DmkII beater at some point in the future.

Dan

(Btw Phil, I keep meaning to contact you again as we have some mutal friends. James and Naga came to see us in Beijing this year)

Dan Chung · November 9th, 2008, 03:14 AM

Forgot to add link to some adapters on ebay

nikon to eos af confirm, Photography, Canon, Nikon items at low prices on eBay.co.uk

Phil Bloom · November 9th, 2008, 05:32 AM

Cheers Dan!

Dan Chung · November 9th, 2008, 07:23 PM

So do you think you are going to try one? could probably give you some contact numbers at Canon UK if you are interested.

Dan

Phil Bloom · November 10th, 2008, 09:05 AM

i would like to try one. Not sure if I can really afford to buy it just to try it

Jacob Mason · November 10th, 2008, 11:36 PM

NikonRumors.com has been following all the developments for quite a while.
They've got their own sources, but they also pull good info. from other insiders and try to put the pieces together.
Currently, they're anticipating a new high end DSLR.
Could be D3x or D4, something high end for professional use.
There's also strong evidence of a completely new line of pro medium format cameras from Nikon.
Labeled under the MX format. Leaving Nikon with 3 lines - DX, FX, and MX.
But of course, for now, it is all rumors.

Christopher Drews · November 11th, 2008, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

Not sure if I can really afford to buy it just to try it

Yeah, I wondered how you afforded all your fancy gear. :P
But I am in the same boat, Zeiss ZF all the way.
-C

November 7th, 2008, 04:00 PM	#1
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Nikon announcement on 20th November Rumour has reached me of this announcement. Whether it will be anything video related is anyone's guess. __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

November 8th, 2008, 04:03 PM	#4
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	how good will it be with an adaptor? __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

November 9th, 2008, 02:58 AM	#5
Dan Chung Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beijing Posts: 665	Same as using Nikon lenses on a Nikon SLR, except no AF (no loss) and stopped down metering only (ie aperture closes as you stop it down) which is what you want for video. I believe that the 5DmkII will be a far far easier to use as a video camera using Nikon, Leica or Contax lenses than when using Canon EF lenses. With a Canon lens on the 5DmkII after you lock exposure you are done with aperture adjustment, it can't be done. With a manual lens (or Nikon af lens with aperture ring) you can continue to adjust aperture with the shutter speed and ISO locked because the camera has no way to adjust it. This is the same as the way manual lenses work on a Nikon D90. The second major problem with the 5DmkII video is also partially overcome by using adapted lenses. The 5DmkII will try to use higher shutter speeds automatically when in bright light at wide aperture. My plan is to use a Vari ND filter Singh-Ray Filters: Vari-ND Variable Neutral Density Filter to force the camera to give me the slowest shutter speed ( probably a 30th in video ), and also a low ISO. Then I can quickly dial in the ND and open up the lens aperture at the same time to give me the effects I want in bright conditions. You can't do any of this with a Canon EF lens. I need to confirm all this when I get my hands on a production 5DmkII but so far everyone I know seems to believe this will work. I think for my purposes a 5DmkII, Nikon lenses and a Vari ND filter might be the ideal solution for replacing my Brevis. I'll continue to use the EX3 and EX1 for more normal stuff and hope that Nikon bring out a 5DmkII beater at some point in the future. Dan (Btw Phil, I keep meaning to contact you again as we have some mutal friends. James and Naga came to see us in Beijing this year) Last edited by Dan Chung; November 9th, 2008 at 05:49 AM.

November 9th, 2008, 05:32 AM	#7
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Cheers Dan! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

November 10th, 2008, 09:05 AM	#9
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	i would like to try one. Not sure if I can really afford to buy it just to try it __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

November 7th, 2008, 08:06 PM	#2
Jay Bloomfield Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Voorheesville, NY Posts: 433	Nikon D4 DSLR.

November 8th, 2008, 09:50 AM	#3
Dan Chung Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beijing Posts: 665	Phil, I wouldn't get your hopes up. Are you going to try the 5DmkII with Nikon adapters? Dan

November 9th, 2008, 03:14 AM	#6
Dan Chung Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beijing Posts: 665	Forgot to add link to some adapters on ebay nikon to eos af confirm, Photography, Canon, Nikon items at low prices on eBay.co.uk

November 9th, 2008, 07:23 PM	#8
Dan Chung Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beijing Posts: 665	So do you think you are going to try one? could probably give you some contact numbers at Canon UK if you are interested. Dan

November 10th, 2008, 11:36 PM	#10
Jacob Mason Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 205	NikonRumors.com has been following all the developments for quite a while. They've got their own sources, but they also pull good info. from other insiders and try to put the pieces together. Currently, they're anticipating a new high end DSLR. Could be D3x or D4, something high end for professional use. There's also strong evidence of a completely new line of pro medium format cameras from Nikon. Labeled under the MX format. Leaving Nikon with 3 lines - DX, FX, and MX. But of course, for now, it is all rumors.