The Quickstream DV Video Capture Device

Will Fastie · December 17th, 2003, 06:41 PM

#1 is a good point I hadn't thought of. I have been planning to buy a second cam, like one of the Canon ZRs, to spare the transport on the GL2. Maybe that money is better spent in this manner.

Mark Williams · December 17th, 2003, 07:06 PM

Another thing to think about. Why not record both on tape and the quickstream drive if one is concerned about possible hard drive and tape drop out problems. Nice insurance if something goes wrong.

Keep the tape as raw archive material, download the files off the quickstream drive onto your NLE, delete the files off the quickstream drive when done and your ready to go film again.

Once this thing gets is out on the market for a while the price will probably drop some, making it more attractive. I will be really interested to hear some user reports.

Regards,

Mark Williams

Steve Nunez · December 17th, 2003, 08:27 PM

Mark,

the workflow you've described is exactly how most users use D-T-D (direct to disk) hardware.........BUT------

...there are people such as myself who spend long periods of time taping something for mere seconds of useable footage- for us, the idea of going tapeless is the future.....for example....

....say you are a nature videographer and are taping an eagle ready to fly off his/her nest to begin fishing......you'd be left stuck rolling video for perhaps hours for the moment the eagle lifts off and catches a fish- which may be a total of a minute of useable video- yet you sat there letting tape roll for an hour to catch that minute of "good" footage......you can see a tapeless format here would be ideal- and for this I'll buy a Quickstream DV (180 min) right after Christmas!!

Mark Williams · December 17th, 2003, 09:35 PM

Steve,

When you get the drive please keep us posted on its performance. I agree with you. This type capture medium is the future. I can't wait to no longer be disappointed by head and tape failures. A quick search of these forums reveals this is a much bigger problem than some of us would like to admit.

Regards,

Mark

Ken Tanaka · December 17th, 2003, 09:55 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Mark Williams When you get the drive please keep us posted on its performance. -->>>

Translation: Let us know how it goes out there, General Custer. <g>

Seriously, though, let's keep this thread alive as some of us begin to dabble with this Quickstream.

I am changing the title of this thread to more accurately reflect the product's existence.

Mark Williams · December 18th, 2003, 10:20 AM

Here is a link over to the DVX user's forum. I suspect there might be some updated information there. Also there is some discount information.

http://www.dvxuser.com/cgi-bin/DVX/YaBB.cgi?board=Links;action=display;num=1071617666

Regards,

Mark

Chris Hurd · December 18th, 2003, 10:28 AM

I met with the Quickstream folks (not for the first time) at DV Expo West last week, and we're going to have a review online here at DV Info Net shortly.

Steve Nunez · December 18th, 2003, 07:23 PM

Chris- your review of the firestore was dead on- I really do hoep you get a Quickstream DV in- inquiring minds want to know!

Mark Williams · December 29th, 2003, 09:00 PM

Hey Steve Nunez,

Look over at http://www.dvxuser.com/cgi-bin/DVX/Y...17666;start=25

Jarrad has a quickstream mounted on his DVX100. Info. on the unit's use should be posted soon.

Regards,

Mark

Mark Williams · December 31st, 2003, 06:40 AM

For those interested a review of the quickstream is at

http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/quickstreamDV/

Issues for me are:

- No Matrox AVI file support (will have to convert files).
- Only Mac file management software at this time.

Otherwise it looks like a good first start. Hopefully improvements will follow.

Regards,

Mark Williams

Daymon Hoffman · December 31st, 2003, 08:02 AM

Sweet thanks for the heads up Mark.

If anyone gets there hands on one for use with Canon cameras i'd like to hear there stories (specifically the Xi/MVX3i). :) Also if anyone could verify this quiery... in the review its said that its FAT32 file system for compatibility reasons across platforms. If you're only using it under a PC system, could you just format it to NTFS and bypass the 2gig file size limit?

Cheers.

Rob Lohman · January 1st, 2004, 02:38 PM

I don't think you'll be able to do that because the firmware on
the drive will probably not support NTFS (quite difficult to implement
comparing to FAT).

Also they didn't test how long the device would run when fully
charged?

Jason Opat · January 2nd, 2004, 10:19 AM

The Quickstream DV is now shipping and available. We will be showing this product at CES in Las Vegas. For more information please email me at jason@mcetech.com.

Happy New Year,
Jason Opat
MCE Technologie, LLC
www.mcetech.com
866-298-5700

December 17th, 2003, 08:27 PM	#18
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Mark, the workflow you've described is exactly how most users use D-T-D (direct to disk) hardware.........BUT------ ...there are people such as myself who spend long periods of time taping something for mere seconds of useable footage- for us, the idea of going tapeless is the future.....for example.... ....say you are a nature videographer and are taping an eagle ready to fly off his/her nest to begin fishing......you'd be left stuck rolling video for perhaps hours for the moment the eagle lifts off and catches a fish- which may be a total of a minute of useable video- yet you sat there letting tape roll for an hour to catch that minute of "good" footage......you can see a tapeless format here would be ideal- and for this I'll buy a Quickstream DV (180 min) right after Christmas!! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

December 17th, 2003, 09:55 PM	#20
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	<<<-- Originally posted by Mark Williams When you get the drive please keep us posted on its performance. -->>> Translation: Let us know how it goes out there, General Custer. <g> Seriously, though, let's keep this thread alive as some of us begin to dabble with this Quickstream. I am changing the title of this thread to more accurately reflect the product's existence. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

December 18th, 2003, 10:28 AM	#22
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I met with the Quickstream folks (not for the first time) at DV Expo West last week, and we're going to have a review online here at DV Info Net shortly. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

December 18th, 2003, 07:23 PM	#23
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Chris- your review of the firestore was dead on- I really do hoep you get a Quickstream DV in- inquiring minds want to know! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

December 31st, 2003, 06:40 AM	#25
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Review out For those interested a review of the quickstream is at http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/quickstreamDV/ Issues for me are: - No Matrox AVI file support (will have to convert files). - Only Mac file management software at this time. Otherwise it looks like a good first start. Hopefully improvements will follow. Regards, Mark Williams

December 17th, 2003, 06:41 PM	#16
Will Fastie Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Jarrettsville, MD Posts: 353	#1 is a good point I hadn't thought of. I have been planning to buy a second cam, like one of the Canon ZRs, to spare the transport on the GL2. Maybe that money is better spent in this manner.

December 17th, 2003, 07:06 PM	#17
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Another thing to think about. Why not record both on tape and the quickstream drive if one is concerned about possible hard drive and tape drop out problems. Nice insurance if something goes wrong. Keep the tape as raw archive material, download the files off the quickstream drive onto your NLE, delete the files off the quickstream drive when done and your ready to go film again. Once this thing gets is out on the market for a while the price will probably drop some, making it more attractive. I will be really interested to hear some user reports. Regards, Mark Williams

December 17th, 2003, 09:35 PM	#19
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Steve, When you get the drive please keep us posted on its performance. I agree with you. This type capture medium is the future. I can't wait to no longer be disappointed by head and tape failures. A quick search of these forums reveals this is a much bigger problem than some of us would like to admit. Regards, Mark

December 18th, 2003, 10:20 AM	#21
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Here is a link over to the DVX user's forum. I suspect there might be some updated information there. Also there is some discount information. http://www.dvxuser.com/cgi-bin/DVX/YaBB.cgi?board=Links;action=display;num=1071617666 Regards, Mark

December 29th, 2003, 09:00 PM	#24
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Hey Steve Nunez, Look over at http://www.dvxuser.com/cgi-bin/DVX/Y...17666;start=25 Jarrad has a quickstream mounted on his DVX100. Info. on the unit's use should be posted soon. Regards, Mark

December 31st, 2003, 08:02 AM	#26
Daymon Hoffman Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 267	Sweet thanks for the heads up Mark. If anyone gets there hands on one for use with Canon cameras i'd like to hear there stories (specifically the Xi/MVX3i). :) Also if anyone could verify this quiery... in the review its said that its FAT32 file system for compatibility reasons across platforms. If you're only using it under a PC system, could you just format it to NTFS and bypass the 2gig file size limit? Cheers. __________________ Welcome... to the real world!

January 1st, 2004, 02:38 PM	#27
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I don't think you'll be able to do that because the firmware on the drive will probably not support NTFS (quite difficult to implement comparing to FAT). Also they didn't test how long the device would run when fully charged? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 2nd, 2004, 10:19 AM	#28
Jason Opat New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 24	QuickStream DV The Quickstream DV is now shipping and available. We will be showing this product at CES in Las Vegas. For more information please email me at jason@mcetech.com. Happy New Year, Jason Opat MCE Technologie, LLC www.mcetech.com 866-298-5700 __________________ Jason Opat President Rule Producitons LLC (866) 298-5700