Help!--lubricant issues when using old video cam as deck? at DVinfo.net

Brian Orser · April 23rd, 2007, 10:12 PM

I just realized that my careful efforts to use only one lubricant type in my JVC HD110 might all be for nothing as I have been using my old PVGS400 as a deck -- i used to use all sorts of tape (sony, TDK) on my GS400 and i have been taking tapes from my HD110, playing them back on my GS400, and then putting them back into my JVCHD110 for further recording.

This is not my future workflow, but im just currently messing around with short tests. I have only done this for about 20 minutes of video.

Do you think i have contaminated the heads of my JVC HD110 with this cross-pollination of camcorder heads?

Any insight would be appreciated. I myself for not thinking of that small detail.

Brian

Bob Grant · April 24th, 2007, 04:12 PM

From my experience this whole issue gets more press than it deserves. A head cleaning tape run for a few seconds in your old deck should remove all causes for concern.

Brian Orser · April 24th, 2007, 09:59 PM

All right. Good to hear. I've been made paranoid...partly because of this forum. ;)

thanks for easing my mind a bit

Brad Tyrrell · April 25th, 2007, 05:19 PM

Oh NOOoooooo!

Now you've done it. Didn't we WARN YOU! Didn't we TELL YOU!

I quite fear that only the Munchausen Maneuver can save you now.

You must take your HD110 (You did say 110 didn't you. - If only ... well too late now, nevermind)... You must take your hapless cam in the dead of moonless night, to a graveyard where absolutely no videographers lie.

Backing carefully towards the center of interrment, recording with the lens cap ON but with the PROPER tape, shutter set to 1/24, NOT 1/25 MIND YOU, ... pausing at each step (record pause that is) you must shout "lub.. lub.. lubadub", and then unpause. (both... well you know)

As you reach the most towering stone in the darkest heart of the necropolis, you must begin whispering "munchy ... munchy... munchy ... munchy "... gradually building in volume and tempo until (and this must be timed quite precisely) at the stroke of midnight you scream "MUNCHAUSEN UNLUB US" heaving the defiled mechanism over your left shoulder, and RUN FOR YOR LIFE!

That should fix it.

Brian Orser · April 26th, 2007, 12:07 AM

:D

Thanks for the laugh...that does seem to be the attitude around here sometimes...

;)

Brad Tyrrell · April 26th, 2007, 07:25 AM

Seriously though... there does seem to be a problem with switching brands.

I had to have parts in my XL1 replaced by Canon about every 8-10 months for the first couple of years I had it using "whatever" tapes.

Then I took the "don't switch" advice and haven't had it in to the repair center since. (I just upgraded to the Xh-A1 so am not using it anymore)

Doesn't really "proove" anything I suppose, but I'm convinced.

Probably the next generation of cams will all be "tapeless" anyway.

April 23rd, 2007, 10:12 PM	#1
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	Help!--lubricant issues when using old video cam as deck? I just realized that my careful efforts to use only one lubricant type in my JVC HD110 might all be for nothing as I have been using my old PVGS400 as a deck -- i used to use all sorts of tape (sony, TDK) on my GS400 and i have been taking tapes from my HD110, playing them back on my GS400, and then putting them back into my JVCHD110 for further recording. This is not my future workflow, but im just currently messing around with short tests. I have only done this for about 20 minutes of video. Do you think i have contaminated the heads of my JVC HD110 with this cross-pollination of camcorder heads? Any insight would be appreciated. I myself for not thinking of that small detail. Brian __________________ Brian Orser

April 24th, 2007, 09:59 PM	#3
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	All right. Good to hear. I've been made paranoid...partly because of this forum. ;) thanks for easing my mind a bit __________________ Brian Orser

April 26th, 2007, 12:07 AM	#5
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	:D Thanks for the laugh...that does seem to be the attitude around here sometimes... ;) __________________ Brian Orser

April 24th, 2007, 04:12 PM	#2
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	From my experience this whole issue gets more press than it deserves. A head cleaning tape run for a few seconds in your old deck should remove all causes for concern.

April 25th, 2007, 05:19 PM	#4
Brad Tyrrell Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Morristown, New Jersey Posts: 249	Oh NOOoooooo! Now you've done it. Didn't we WARN YOU! Didn't we TELL YOU! I quite fear that only the Munchausen Maneuver can save you now. You must take your HD110 (You did say 110 didn't you. - If only ... well too late now, nevermind)... You must take your hapless cam in the dead of moonless night, to a graveyard where absolutely no videographers lie. Backing carefully towards the center of interrment, recording with the lens cap ON but with the PROPER tape, shutter set to 1/24, NOT 1/25 MIND YOU, ... pausing at each step (record pause that is) you must shout "lub.. lub.. lubadub", and then unpause. (both... well you know) As you reach the most towering stone in the darkest heart of the necropolis, you must begin whispering "munchy ... munchy... munchy ... munchy "... gradually building in volume and tempo until (and this must be timed quite precisely) at the stroke of midnight you scream "MUNCHAUSEN UNLUB US" heaving the defiled mechanism over your left shoulder, and RUN FOR YOR LIFE! That should fix it.

April 26th, 2007, 07:25 AM	#6
Brad Tyrrell Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Morristown, New Jersey Posts: 249	Seriously though... there does seem to be a problem with switching brands. I had to have parts in my XL1 replaced by Canon about every 8-10 months for the first couple of years I had it using "whatever" tapes. Then I took the "don't switch" advice and haven't had it in to the repair center since. (I just upgraded to the Xh-A1 so am not using it anymore) Doesn't really "proove" anything I suppose, but I'm convinced. Probably the next generation of cams will all be "tapeless" anyway.