Should a new MiniDV tape be "striped"? at DVinfo.net

Arnaldo Paixao · April 9th, 2003, 10:28 AM

I remember seeing a post were someone said something about "striping" the tape before it was used for the first time, meaning, recording "black" video on the entire tape so it would have time code from begining to end.

Any thoughts on that? Just plain silly and a waste of time or is there any reason in doing that?

Would very much like to ear from you people.

Take care
Arnaldo Paixao

Dylan Couper · April 9th, 2003, 10:32 AM

I say....
No.

DV will re-record the time code overtop of whatever you lay down, so there's no point there.

I record 60 seconds of black over the start of the tape, to skip any initial tape glitches.

Arnaldo Paixao · April 9th, 2003, 10:39 AM

Thank U for your reply.

Just to be perfectly clear. I'm talking about blank tapes, not allready used ones.

So what you mean is that, even with brand new blank tapes, there is no point in doing that?

Jeff Donald · April 9th, 2003, 01:53 PM

I would fast forward and rewind blank tapes to repack them. Repacking equalizes the tension on the tape, allows it to lay flat, and any material loose from manufacture or shipping can fall off. Loose material can cause dropouts.

Blacking a tape to put continuous time code is a hold over from linear editing. In my opinion it only adds additional wear and tear on your equipment.

Joe Lloyd · April 9th, 2003, 02:37 PM

Jeff, are you still able to batch capture properly if you don't stripe a minidv tape?

Bill Ravens · April 9th, 2003, 03:10 PM

I agree with Jeff. NO pre-striping is necessary with DV tape, but, you need to FF and rewind to get all the loose particles of media out so they don't clog your camera transport mechanism.

Jeff Donald · April 9th, 2003, 09:09 PM

Joe, I don't have problems with FCP. Your NLE may behave differently. I always record a few seconds of footage after the end of the take and before the actual start of the next. That way if I do get a break, I can capture around it.

Edward Troxel · April 9th, 2003, 09:58 PM

Only if you want to waste a lot of time and put lots of wear & tear on your equipment. You can make sure you get no timecode breaks by ALWAYS starting before the previous recording ended.

Dylan Couper · April 9th, 2003, 10:19 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Joe Lloyd : Jeff, are you still able to batch capture properly if you don't stripe a minidv tape? -->>>

Absolutely using Vegas Video. I don't think I've striped a miniDV tape in my life. If you have an NLE that doesn't, it's time to switch.

Arnaldo Paixao · April 10th, 2003, 02:10 AM

Thank you all.

April 9th, 2003, 10:28 AM	#1
Arnaldo Paixao Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vimeiro - Portugal Posts: 255	Should a new MiniDV tape be "striped"? I remember seeing a post were someone said something about "striping" the tape before it was used for the first time, meaning, recording "black" video on the entire tape so it would have time code from begining to end. Any thoughts on that? Just plain silly and a waste of time or is there any reason in doing that? Would very much like to ear from you people. Take care Arnaldo Paixao

April 9th, 2003, 10:32 AM	#2
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I say.... No. DV will re-record the time code overtop of whatever you lay down, so there's no point there. I record 60 seconds of black over the start of the tape, to skip any initial tape glitches. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

April 9th, 2003, 10:39 AM	#3
Arnaldo Paixao Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vimeiro - Portugal Posts: 255	Blank tapes Thank U for your reply. Just to be perfectly clear. I'm talking about blank tapes, not allready used ones. So what you mean is that, even with brand new blank tapes, there is no point in doing that?

April 9th, 2003, 01:53 PM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I would fast forward and rewind blank tapes to repack them. Repacking equalizes the tension on the tape, allows it to lay flat, and any material loose from manufacture or shipping can fall off. Loose material can cause dropouts. Blacking a tape to put continuous time code is a hold over from linear editing. In my opinion it only adds additional wear and tear on your equipment. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 9th, 2003, 09:09 PM	#7
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Joe, I don't have problems with FCP. Your NLE may behave differently. I always record a few seconds of footage after the end of the take and before the actual start of the next. That way if I do get a break, I can capture around it. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 9th, 2003, 02:37 PM	#5
Joe Lloyd Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 202	Jeff, are you still able to batch capture properly if you don't stripe a minidv tape?

April 9th, 2003, 03:10 PM	#6
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	I agree with Jeff. NO pre-striping is necessary with DV tape, but, you need to FF and rewind to get all the loose particles of media out so they don't clog your camera transport mechanism.

April 9th, 2003, 09:58 PM	#8
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Only if you want to waste a lot of time and put lots of wear & tear on your equipment. You can make sure you get no timecode breaks by ALWAYS starting before the previous recording ended.

April 9th, 2003, 10:19 PM	#9
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Joe Lloyd : Jeff, are you still able to batch capture properly if you don't stripe a minidv tape? -->>> Absolutely using Vegas Video. I don't think I've striped a miniDV tape in my life. If you have an NLE that doesn't, it's time to switch. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

April 10th, 2003, 02:10 AM	#10
Arnaldo Paixao Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vimeiro - Portugal Posts: 255	MiniDV tapes Thank you all.