80 or 83 minutes? Panasonic or Sony? at DVinfo.net

Bruce Pelley · October 27th, 2009, 10:14 PM

Which is more reliable and will deliver the best results from your exeprience?

Or is there an appreciable difference? What do you use?

All comments welcome.

Thanks as I need a longer tape than 60 minutes in SP mode.

Bruce

Andrew Smith · October 28th, 2009, 04:36 AM

I stick with the Sonys so that I can select whatever grade of tape I want to use, and still remain within only having one type of tape lubricant present in my deck.

(Changing brands and hence lubricants can bring unwanted issues)

Andrew

Bruce Pelley · October 28th, 2009, 06:06 AM

Hi Andrew,

I've always used Maxell who only makes 60 minute tapes so AFAIK, I have no choice as to use another brand for a longer tape.

Bruce

Ron Evans · October 28th, 2009, 01:24 PM

Don't mix with Sony so I would go with the Panasonic.

Ron Evans

Bruce Pelley · October 28th, 2009, 02:35 PM

Panasonic it is!

Dipped my toe in the water and bought my first 5 ever at this length from B & H Photo earlier today which I hope will show up tommorrow.

Individual price was fair and lower than any where else I could find in the USA except for a place I knew nothing about in Texas which would have taken too much tme to arrive.

Hoping for the best.

Thanks for the dialogue.

Bruce

Andrew Smith · October 28th, 2009, 09:27 PM

I've got a Panasonic tape that gives dropouts when playing back HDV material. Each time the dropout occours in a different random place. In other words, if I do two captures I stand a good chance of getting everything. Same goes for others here.

Check this earlier thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/long-bla...ants-them.html

This is why I don't use the Panasonic tapes any more and shifted to Sony.

Andrew

Ron Evans · October 29th, 2009, 06:31 AM

If you just ONCE put a Sony tape in the camcorder before the Panasonic you will potentially have the problem you described because the debris mix is moving around to different places each time. IF you use Sony stay Sony for everything. I keep one of my camcorders for non-Sony tapes and they all play fine. All the other camcorders are exclusively Sony and they are Ok too. Just don't mix or have the camcorder professionally cleaned and then stay with the other brand.

Ron Evans

Andrew Smith · October 29th, 2009, 06:34 AM

Yes this is true.

Though at the time I was only using Panasonic tapes and in fact (from memory) it was the very first or second thing I shot with my brand new (Sony) camera. Panasonic tapes both times.

After the issues, I've gone straight to Sony only for tapes and haven't looked back.

Andrew

Pete Cofrancesco · November 23rd, 2009, 10:09 PM

I live on the wild side. I use 83 panny and sony 60 in my sony camera. never had a problem.

Ron Evans · November 24th, 2009, 07:42 AM

The first time I used a Panasonic tape in my Sony DHR1000 deck it locked the deck up and had to back to Sony to get the tape out. Then again in one of my camcorders, same thing. Haven't mixed tapes since!!!

Ron Evans

Sam Mendolia · November 24th, 2009, 07:43 PM

I did a freelance job, on the weekend, and was provided 83min Panasonic tapes.
I have also used the odd Sony and Maxell, and only ever had one dropout. it ended up being the tape. I primarily use Panny tapes, and have never had any issues.

October 27th, 2009, 10:14 PM	#1
Bruce Pelley Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 339	80 or 83 minutes? Panasonic or Sony? Which is more reliable and will deliver the best results from your exeprience? Or is there an appreciable difference? What do you use? All comments welcome. Thanks as I need a longer tape than 60 minutes in SP mode. Bruce

November 24th, 2009, 07:43 PM	#11
Sam Mendolia Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 217	I did a freelance job, on the weekend, and was provided 83min Panasonic tapes. I have also used the odd Sony and Maxell, and only ever had one dropout. it ended up being the tape. I primarily use Panny tapes, and have never had any issues. __________________ I was told I have no vision, but boy do I see great!

October 28th, 2009, 04:36 AM	#2
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,066	I stick with the Sonys so that I can select whatever grade of tape I want to use, and still remain within only having one type of tape lubricant present in my deck. (Changing brands and hence lubricants can bring unwanted issues) Andrew

October 28th, 2009, 06:06 AM	#3
Bruce Pelley Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 339	Hi Andrew, I've always used Maxell who only makes 60 minute tapes so AFAIK, I have no choice as to use another brand for a longer tape. Bruce

October 28th, 2009, 01:24 PM	#4
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,222	Don't mix with Sony so I would go with the Panasonic. Ron Evans

October 28th, 2009, 02:35 PM	#5
Bruce Pelley Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 339	Panasonic it is! Dipped my toe in the water and bought my first 5 ever at this length from B & H Photo earlier today which I hope will show up tommorrow. Individual price was fair and lower than any where else I could find in the USA except for a place I knew nothing about in Texas which would have taken too much tme to arrive. Hoping for the best. Thanks for the dialogue. Bruce

October 28th, 2009, 09:27 PM	#6
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,066	I've got a Panasonic tape that gives dropouts when playing back HDV material. Each time the dropout occours in a different random place. In other words, if I do two captures I stand a good chance of getting everything. Same goes for others here. Check this earlier thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/long-bla...ants-them.html This is why I don't use the Panasonic tapes any more and shifted to Sony. Andrew

October 29th, 2009, 06:31 AM	#7
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,222	If you just ONCE put a Sony tape in the camcorder before the Panasonic you will potentially have the problem you described because the debris mix is moving around to different places each time. IF you use Sony stay Sony for everything. I keep one of my camcorders for non-Sony tapes and they all play fine. All the other camcorders are exclusively Sony and they are Ok too. Just don't mix or have the camcorder professionally cleaned and then stay with the other brand. Ron Evans

October 29th, 2009, 06:34 AM	#8
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,066	Yes this is true. Though at the time I was only using Panasonic tapes and in fact (from memory) it was the very first or second thing I shot with my brand new (Sony) camera. Panasonic tapes both times. After the issues, I've gone straight to Sony only for tapes and haven't looked back. Andrew

November 23rd, 2009, 10:09 PM	#9
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,005	I live on the wild side. I use 83 panny and sony 60 in my sony camera. never had a problem.

November 24th, 2009, 07:42 AM	#10
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,222	The first time I used a Panasonic tape in my Sony DHR1000 deck it locked the deck up and had to back to Sony to get the tape out. Then again in one of my camcorders, same thing. Haven't mixed tapes since!!! Ron Evans