The Gigantic Mini DV Deck / Camcorder as Deck Thread

Ed Fiebke · February 7th, 2003, 11:02 PM

Have a Panasonic AG-DV1000 deck. Works great! Saves wear and tear on the GL2. Works great for capturing, printing to tape and used during the editing process to a television monitor. (I use it with Vegas 4.0 and it's capture software)

Ted

Don Donatello · February 7th, 2003, 11:13 PM

have panasonic ag dv 2000 deck ... handles mini and full size dv tapes.. it can also playback DVCAM tapes.

Christopher Go · February 7th, 2003, 11:35 PM

I also have a Panasonic AG-DV1000 deck. I purchased it because it costs less than many of the decks available and I really wanted a deck instead of a second camcorder. This was before the JVC one with dual MiniDV and VHS, otherwise it would have been between those two. The AG-DV1000 works fine so far through Avid Xpress DV 3.5.

Mike Rinkunas · February 8th, 2003, 01:12 AM

Paul,

I;ve got a JVC SR-VS20 mini-dv and SVHS deck...its the best thing i've ever gotten to date, well atleast for my purposes.

only slight problem with it is premiere doesn't like to print to video to the deck sometimes, but once its on DV, copying to VHS for distribution is easy, or capturing from VHS is great, and it's much less expensive then the XL1s (1/4 price) so i don't mind wearing out the heads on it

just my 2 cents
~Mike

Rob Lohman · February 8th, 2003, 04:43 AM

There currently is also another thread on this here!

Don Palomaki · February 8th, 2003, 06:35 AM

The don't mix brands caution applies to any tape inserted in the camcorder for any reason - whether recording, playing back for viewing, or for firewire capture. It is all the same as far as the mechanical system is concerned.

Adam Brennan · February 8th, 2003, 09:18 AM

So Don,

Are you saying don't mix brands of high quailty tapes in the canon XL-1?

Don Berube · February 8th, 2003, 09:24 AM

You could also consider just buying a ZR40, since it has real-time analog pass through and it can be had for about $390 off the web,,, that is what I use for a deck in the field - it's a lot easier to pack than a deck. I have yet to experience any problems using a ZR40 in this way.

- don

Tim Joseph · February 8th, 2003, 04:50 PM

I agree with Don. I have an elura 40mc that i use as my deck. Its better than wearing out my xl1s and suits my needs perfectly. Even has a little LCD screen on the side (not that i really need that but its fun to have haha)

Don Palomaki · February 8th, 2003, 06:12 PM

The issue is that tapes with different characteristics (mechanical and chemical) will leave different deposits in any camcorder. If after a long standing diet of one tape youchange to another with different properties, it may cause deposits to shift, float aroudn, clog heads, etc. Some brands are just remarking of another well known brand, but who knows which is what? (E.g., Canon branded may be Panasonic in side. Panasonic and JVC tape might be from the same factory given that they have the same parent company.) Even within a brand there may be different formulations that could cause a somewhat similar effect. Thus, a generally safe practice is to stick with one brand/type of tape, and to plan on a head cleaning if you have to change brands/types.

Mike Rehmus · February 8th, 2003, 09:56 PM

You know that with the JVC SR-VS20 deck you can record directly to the S-VHS side from the computer? And capture to the computer via firewire from the S-VHS side too?

Christopher Hughes · February 9th, 2003, 04:29 PM

"a generally safe practice is to stick with one brand/type of tape, and to plan on a head cleaning if you have to change brands/types."

That mean one or two passes of a head cleaning tape or factory cleaning of the heads???

Steve Thompson · February 10th, 2003, 07:02 AM

I use a Panasonic AG-DV1000 Mini DV deck as my source deck. I shoot using a XL-1 and a GL2. I use Panasonic tapes after having a poor experience several times with brand new JVC tapes. Having the source deck definately saves wear 7 tear on my cameras.

As a backup source deck, I recently purchased a Sony TRV 17 Mini Dv camera but the bottom loading feature is a pain in the neck once the camera is connected to my computer (the wires get in the way of loading & ejecting).

Michael Botkin · February 10th, 2003, 07:08 PM

I saw that you stated the JVC Combo deck had problems "printing to video in Premiere". Is this when trying to preview with a monitor attached to the deck? I'm buying a deck in the next month and am having a hard time choosing and finding information on these decks. I hear the Panasonic DV1000 is a good deck, but also heard this guys heads ran out after 100hrs. Any info would be appreciated.

Michael

Dylan Couper · February 10th, 2003, 09:58 PM

I also use a ZR40 as a deck. Cheap, small, portable, and hey, it's a video camera too! :)

February 7th, 2003, 11:02 PM	#121
Ed Fiebke Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Lebanon, New York Posts: 240	Have a Panasonic AG-DV1000 deck. Works great! Saves wear and tear on the GL2. Works great for capturing, printing to tape and used during the editing process to a television monitor. (I use it with Vegas 4.0 and it's capture software) Ted __________________ iMac Pro (3.2 GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon W ): OS X 10.15.6; 64 GBs RAM; Radeon Pro Vega 64X 16 GB graphics; 2 TB internal SSD; 3 external SSDs; MOTU 828ES

February 8th, 2003, 04:43 AM	#125
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February 8th, 2003, 09:24 AM	#128
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	You could also consider just buying a ZR40, since it has real-time analog pass through and it can be had for about $390 off the web,,, that is what I use for a deck in the field - it's a lot easier to pack than a deck. I have yet to experience any problems using a ZR40 in this way. - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

February 8th, 2003, 04:50 PM	#129
Tim Joseph Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 35	I agree with Don. I have an elura 40mc that i use as my deck. Its better than wearing out my xl1s and suits my needs perfectly. Even has a little LCD screen on the side (not that i really need that but its fun to have haha) __________________ =================== Scheezo Have Camera, Will Travel-

February 8th, 2003, 09:56 PM	#131
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	You know that with the JVC SR-VS20 deck you can record directly to the S-VHS side from the computer? And capture to the computer via firewire from the S-VHS side too? __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

February 7th, 2003, 11:13 PM	#122
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	have panasonic ag dv 2000 deck ... handles mini and full size dv tapes.. it can also playback DVCAM tapes.

February 7th, 2003, 11:35 PM	#123
Christopher Go Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 429	I also have a Panasonic AG-DV1000 deck. I purchased it because it costs less than many of the decks available and I really wanted a deck instead of a second camcorder. This was before the JVC one with dual MiniDV and VHS, otherwise it would have been between those two. The AG-DV1000 works fine so far through Avid Xpress DV 3.5.

February 8th, 2003, 01:12 AM	#124
Mike Rinkunas Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 134	Paul, I;ve got a JVC SR-VS20 mini-dv and SVHS deck...its the best thing i've ever gotten to date, well atleast for my purposes. only slight problem with it is premiere doesn't like to print to video to the deck sometimes, but once its on DV, copying to VHS for distribution is easy, or capturing from VHS is great, and it's much less expensive then the XL1s (1/4 price) so i don't mind wearing out the heads on it just my 2 cents ~Mike

February 8th, 2003, 06:35 AM	#126
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	The don't mix brands caution applies to any tape inserted in the camcorder for any reason - whether recording, playing back for viewing, or for firewire capture. It is all the same as far as the mechanical system is concerned.

February 8th, 2003, 09:18 AM	#127
Adam Brennan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 58	So Don, Are you saying don't mix brands of high quailty tapes in the canon XL-1?

February 8th, 2003, 06:12 PM	#130
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	The issue is that tapes with different characteristics (mechanical and chemical) will leave different deposits in any camcorder. If after a long standing diet of one tape youchange to another with different properties, it may cause deposits to shift, float aroudn, clog heads, etc. Some brands are just remarking of another well known brand, but who knows which is what? (E.g., Canon branded may be Panasonic in side. Panasonic and JVC tape might be from the same factory given that they have the same parent company.) Even within a brand there may be different formulations that could cause a somewhat similar effect. Thus, a generally safe practice is to stick with one brand/type of tape, and to plan on a head cleaning if you have to change brands/types.

February 9th, 2003, 04:29 PM	#132
Christopher Hughes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunderland, England (y Merida, Mexico) Posts: 269	"a generally safe practice is to stick with one brand/type of tape, and to plan on a head cleaning if you have to change brands/types." That mean one or two passes of a head cleaning tape or factory cleaning of the heads???

February 10th, 2003, 07:02 AM	#133
Steve Thompson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canonsburg PA Posts: 11	I use a Panasonic AG-DV1000 Mini DV deck as my source deck. I shoot using a XL-1 and a GL2. I use Panasonic tapes after having a poor experience several times with brand new JVC tapes. Having the source deck definately saves wear 7 tear on my cameras. As a backup source deck, I recently purchased a Sony TRV 17 Mini Dv camera but the bottom loading feature is a pain in the neck once the camera is connected to my computer (the wires get in the way of loading & ejecting).

February 10th, 2003, 07:08 PM	#134
Michael Botkin Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 70	JVC MiniDV/SVHS Deck and Premiere I saw that you stated the JVC Combo deck had problems "printing to video in Premiere". Is this when trying to preview with a monitor attached to the deck? I'm buying a deck in the next month and am having a hard time choosing and finding information on these decks. I hear the Panasonic DV1000 is a good deck, but also heard this guys heads ran out after 100hrs. Any info would be appreciated. Michael

February 10th, 2003, 09:58 PM	#135
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I also use a ZR40 as a deck. Cheap, small, portable, and hey, it's a video camera too! :)