The Gigantic Mini DV Deck / Camcorder as Deck Thread

Steve LaClair · February 29th, 2004, 03:40 PM

yeah i just wanted to be sure before i killed $200 on some random ebay auction.

Tyler Gred · February 29th, 2004, 03:51 PM

I am not sure though so WAIT before someone else who knows posts....

George Brackett III · March 1st, 2004, 01:35 PM

Some of the low-end cams (like my JVC GR-DVL300U) don't support pass-through, so I still end up using my GL-2 for color correction.

Alex Dunn · March 1st, 2004, 01:40 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by George Brackett III : Some of the low-end cams (like my JVC GR-DVL300U) don't support pass-through, so I still end up using my GL-2 for color correction. -->>>

George, please elaborate.

Are you saying that you can use the GL2 custom presets to enhance footage passed from an analog cam through to your capture card? Or something else entirely?

Jean-Philippe Archibald · March 1st, 2004, 02:04 PM

I think that what Georges are saying is that he use his camcorder connected to a computer through firewire and connected to a monitor through an analog output (RCA or S-video) to view the effect of the color correction filters he apply in post production in real time on the monitor.

Some lower end cam does not support this feature.

Alex Dunn · March 1st, 2004, 02:15 PM

Ohhhhh! That is differant. So, in place of a video card with r/t DVI/TV output to a monitor he uses the output passthrough on his GL2 to output to a monitor. That's ingenuity!

Still though, he said "use the GL2 for color correction". I hope he will elaborate.

George Brackett III · March 1st, 2004, 08:24 PM

No. All I'm saying is I use a monitor via the Firewire preview mode to adjust my colors per NTSC specs.

Jun Galinato · March 2nd, 2004, 11:24 PM

Why not just buy a cheap Sony mini-DV camcorder? I use my TRV-25 for playing. Yes most of the Sony mini-DV camcorders play DVCAM.

Alex Ratson · March 2nd, 2004, 11:31 PM

But they (Sony Mine DV cameras) do not record in DVCAM.
I find it much more beneficial to Master to DVCAM (if acquired via DVCAM or Mine DV) then to shoot in native DVCAM and master to Mine DV.

Alex

Jun Galinato · March 3rd, 2004, 12:44 AM

He said he is just looking something to import footage to his NLE, he didn't mention to use it for export, so for playback, a cheap mini-DV camcorder is fine.

Alex Ratson · March 3rd, 2004, 07:11 PM

I find it fairly safe to assume that most people will like to export there move to tape. Who dose not? Even if you are only distributing the product on DVD you will want to have a Master as a long term back up.

Alex

Todd Moen · March 9th, 2004, 04:59 PM

Hey..Thanks Guys,
Yep I could use a small camera for exporting to the NLE wich would take care of the ware and tear then if I wanted it back in DVCAM fomat I could go back to the camera I guess. Does that make any sense?
Thanks

Matthew Eastwood · March 13th, 2004, 04:14 AM

the SR-VS30U is the cheapest deck i could find for importing DVCAM footage. it will not record DVCAM. cost is ~$900.

link -> http://www.dvshop.ca/vdecks/jvcdecks.html

Ronald Lee · March 14th, 2004, 05:06 PM

Ronald Lee · March 14th, 2004, 05:09 PM

You know, I"m thinking about getting a companion for my PDX10. A deck that is actually the PDX10's little brother...

Not the TRV950, but the TRV33.

I'm in the market for a cheap one, and I'm sure prices of these will drop even more.

Or I can buy a cheap miniDV (these play DVCAM? or not?) off ebay as well. Hmmm. Still probably a Sony or a Canon.

But the first way, I can use the TRV33 as a back up true 16:9 cam as well.

March 1st, 2004, 01:35 PM	#258
George Brackett III Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Waterville, NY USA Posts: 83	Some of the low-end cams (like my JVC GR-DVL300U) don't support pass-through, so I still end up using my GL-2 for color correction. __________________ If the quality of mercy is not strained, then how do they get the lumps out?

March 1st, 2004, 02:04 PM	#260
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	I think that what Georges are saying is that he use his camcorder connected to a computer through firewire and connected to a monitor through an analog output (RCA or S-video) to view the effect of the color correction filters he apply in post production in real time on the monitor. Some lower end cam does not support this feature. __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

March 1st, 2004, 08:24 PM	#262
George Brackett III Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Waterville, NY USA Posts: 83	No. All I'm saying is I use a monitor via the Firewire preview mode to adjust my colors per NTSC specs. __________________ If the quality of mercy is not strained, then how do they get the lumps out?

March 2nd, 2004, 11:24 PM	#263
Jun Galinato Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 231	Why not just buy a cheap Sony mini-DV camcorder? I use my TRV-25 for playing. Yes most of the Sony mini-DV camcorders play DVCAM. __________________ Sony Z7U, Canon 5D Mark II, Canon 24-105 F4L, Canon 70-200 F2.8L, Canon 580 EXII, Zoom H2.

March 3rd, 2004, 12:44 AM	#265
Jun Galinato Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 231	He said he is just looking something to import footage to his NLE, he didn't mention to use it for export, so for playback, a cheap mini-DV camcorder is fine. __________________ Sony Z7U, Canon 5D Mark II, Canon 24-105 F4L, Canon 70-200 F2.8L, Canon 580 EXII, Zoom H2.

February 29th, 2004, 03:40 PM	#256
Steve LaClair Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fayetteville, North Carolina/ Upstate NY Posts: 40	yeah i just wanted to be sure before i killed $200 on some random ebay auction.

February 29th, 2004, 03:51 PM	#257
Tyler Gred New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 19	I am not sure though so WAIT before someone else who knows posts....

March 1st, 2004, 01:40 PM	#259
Alex Dunn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 202	<<<-- Originally posted by George Brackett III : Some of the low-end cams (like my JVC GR-DVL300U) don't support pass-through, so I still end up using my GL-2 for color correction. -->>> George, please elaborate. Are you saying that you can use the GL2 custom presets to enhance footage passed from an analog cam through to your capture card? Or something else entirely?

March 1st, 2004, 02:15 PM	#261
Alex Dunn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 202	Ohhhhh! That is differant. So, in place of a video card with r/t DVI/TV output to a monitor he uses the output passthrough on his GL2 to output to a monitor. That's ingenuity! Still though, he said "use the GL2 for color correction". I hope he will elaborate.

March 2nd, 2004, 11:31 PM	#264
Alex Ratson Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Squamish, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 149	But they (Sony Mine DV cameras) do not record in DVCAM. I find it much more beneficial to Master to DVCAM (if acquired via DVCAM or Mine DV) then to shoot in native DVCAM and master to Mine DV. Alex

March 3rd, 2004, 07:11 PM	#266
Alex Ratson Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Squamish, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 149	I find it fairly safe to assume that most people will like to export there move to tape. Who dose not? Even if you are only distributing the product on DVD you will want to have a Master as a long term back up. Alex __________________ Alex Ratson www.alexratson.com

March 9th, 2004, 04:59 PM	#267
Todd Moen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bozeman MT Posts: 51	Hey..Thanks Guys, Yep I could use a small camera for exporting to the NLE wich would take care of the ware and tear then if I wanted it back in DVCAM fomat I could go back to the camera I guess. Does that make any sense? Thanks

March 13th, 2004, 04:14 AM	#268
Matthew Eastwood Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Lawrence, Kansas Posts: 40	the SR-VS30U is the cheapest deck i could find for importing DVCAM footage. it will not record DVCAM. cost is ~$900. link -> http://www.dvshop.ca/vdecks/jvcdecks.html

March 14th, 2004, 05:06 PM	#269
Ronald Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 435

March 14th, 2004, 05:09 PM	#270
Ronald Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 435	You know, I"m thinking about getting a companion for my PDX10. A deck that is actually the PDX10's little brother... Not the TRV950, but the TRV33. I'm in the market for a cheap one, and I'm sure prices of these will drop even more. Or I can buy a cheap miniDV (these play DVCAM? or not?) off ebay as well. Hmmm. Still probably a Sony or a Canon. But the first way, I can use the TRV33 as a back up true 16:9 cam as well.