The Gigantic Mini DV Deck / Camcorder as Deck Thread

Glenn Chan · October 2nd, 2003, 05:26 PM

Using the camera as a deck will put more hours on its heads. If you are running over a hundred hours on it then maybe you want to consider a deck. However, a replacement for your camera will probably still be cheaper than a real deck!! In professional environments their cameras are expensive and gets hundreds of hours on them so a deck is a good idea.

I don't know of any problem using it as a A/D converter.

Josh Bass · October 2nd, 2003, 06:16 PM

How would a new Canon XL1s be cheaper than a deck? Or did you mean the heads? Aren't the heads like $900?

Bryan Mitchell · October 2nd, 2003, 06:28 PM

Yes, I too have an xl1s... I think compared to the $4000 on it and all its accessories i've purchased, $1250 isn't too bad. But I think I'm just going to get a cheap $300 camera and use it.

Josh Bass · October 2nd, 2003, 09:37 PM

Tell me which one you're gonna get. . .I might do the same. I was looking at Panasonic Dv53s on Ebay. Some good prices. . .if you're willing to accept whatever's wrong with them. I want something that will read and acknowledge anything weird I do in camera with the framerate (30p. . .if I ever get another cam, 24p, etc.).

Glenn Chan · October 3rd, 2003, 08:31 AM

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How would a new Canon XL1s be cheaper than a deck? Or did you mean the heads? Aren't the heads like $900?

Many people here have consumer cameras that cost a lot less. For them, their camera is cheaper than the cheapest deck you can buy.

Josh Bass · October 3rd, 2003, 02:57 PM

Sorry. . .my camera conceit got the better of me.

Denis Murphy · October 8th, 2003, 06:20 PM

jeez guys, where are you going with this?

Sony DSR-11 is probably the most recommended deck in the DV world. If only it had timecode display!

Bryan Mitchell · October 8th, 2003, 06:43 PM

Lol, thanks for throwing out an actual answer.

Josh Bass · October 8th, 2003, 09:34 PM

Any particular models? All the stuff I've seen is still around $400.

George Brackett III · October 9th, 2003, 03:47 AM

I just saw a JVC on Home Shopping Network for about $360...it's not on their site at that price, so (unfortunately) you have to sit in front of the tube and watch HSN all day...

Mike Rupp · October 9th, 2003, 04:04 PM

I've been heavily using a Sony Walkman mini-dv deck for about 5 years without any problems, and it' still plugging along. It's invaluable for presentations, and making final tapes. I recommend it highly. Mike

Jon Yurek · October 9th, 2003, 04:21 PM

Got a model number on that? Sounds interesting.

Mike Rupp · October 10th, 2003, 08:25 AM

I'm not at my video editing station- but I think it's the GV300, without the LED screen- cost about $1000 from B&H Photo, New York. If I had to buy again, I'd go ahead and get the unit with the screen- it would be real handy as a small monitor to view work on the road while on assignment, or just to share video with others without a major hookup. Mike Rupp

Josh King · October 13th, 2003, 03:37 AM

Hello All!
I was wondering if anyone has had experience using MiniDV (Consumer) in broadcast. Specifically, my school is looking to buy a few decks to use in our (old) production van.

We still use analog video (composite) for the video throughout the van.

These will be replacing 2 Betacam SP units (a UVW-1800 and a PVW-2800), which have been (ab)used by the students. They need genlock capability. We'd like at least one of the units to have a jog-wheel (like the PVW-2800). Audio inputs would be unbalanced XLR, but we might be able to hack something to work with a different connector.

I'm eyeing the JVC BR-DV6000U and the BR-DV600UA, but they are a bit pricey. We've budgeted around $1500, but if someone can justify a higher price, we'll be able to get the funds.

So, this is what we need:
Jog-Shuttle (1 unit)
BlackBurst/Genlock Capability
XLR Audio (could be adapted/modified)
Composite Video
Low Price :)

Any Suggestions?

Hope I posted in the right forum!

Rob Lohman · October 13th, 2003, 12:52 PM

The only I know is that if you have a good enough DV camera the
footage is definitely broadcast quality, no doubt about that!

October 2nd, 2003, 06:16 PM	#212
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	How would a new Canon XL1s be cheaper than a deck? Or did you mean the heads? Aren't the heads like $900? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

October 2nd, 2003, 09:37 PM	#214
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Tell me which one you're gonna get. . .I might do the same. I was looking at Panasonic Dv53s on Ebay. Some good prices. . .if you're willing to accept whatever's wrong with them. I want something that will read and acknowledge anything weird I do in camera with the framerate (30p. . .if I ever get another cam, 24p, etc.). __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

October 3rd, 2003, 02:57 PM	#216
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Sorry. . .my camera conceit got the better of me. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

October 8th, 2003, 06:20 PM	#217
Denis Murphy Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 47	DSR-11 jeez guys, where are you going with this? Sony DSR-11 is probably the most recommended deck in the DV world. If only it had timecode display!

October 8th, 2003, 09:34 PM	#219
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Any particular models? All the stuff I've seen is still around $400. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

October 2nd, 2003, 05:26 PM	#211
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Using the camera as a deck will put more hours on its heads. If you are running over a hundred hours on it then maybe you want to consider a deck. However, a replacement for your camera will probably still be cheaper than a real deck!! In professional environments their cameras are expensive and gets hundreds of hours on them so a deck is a good idea. I don't know of any problem using it as a A/D converter.

October 2nd, 2003, 06:28 PM	#213
Bryan Mitchell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 316	Yes, I too have an xl1s... I think compared to the $4000 on it and all its accessories i've purchased, $1250 isn't too bad. But I think I'm just going to get a cheap $300 camera and use it.

October 8th, 2003, 06:43 PM	#218
Bryan Mitchell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 316	Lol, thanks for throwing out an actual answer.

October 9th, 2003, 03:47 AM	#220
George Brackett III Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Waterville, NY USA Posts: 83	I just saw a JVC on Home Shopping Network for about $360...it's not on their site at that price, so (unfortunately) you have to sit in front of the tube and watch HSN all day... __________________ If the quality of mercy is not strained, then how do they get the lumps out?

October 9th, 2003, 04:04 PM	#221
Mike Rupp Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: phoenix, az Posts: 25	I've been heavily using a Sony Walkman mini-dv deck for about 5 years without any problems, and it' still plugging along. It's invaluable for presentations, and making final tapes. I recommend it highly. Mike

October 9th, 2003, 04:21 PM	#222
Jon Yurek Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 64	Got a model number on that? Sounds interesting.

October 10th, 2003, 08:25 AM	#223
Mike Rupp Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: phoenix, az Posts: 25	I'm not at my video editing station- but I think it's the GV300, without the LED screen- cost about $1000 from B&H Photo, New York. If I had to buy again, I'd go ahead and get the unit with the screen- it would be real handy as a small monitor to view work on the road while on assignment, or just to share video with others without a major hookup. Mike Rupp

October 13th, 2003, 03:37 AM	#224
Josh King New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Irvine, CA, USA Posts: 11	MiniDV Deck for Broadcast? Hello All! I was wondering if anyone has had experience using MiniDV (Consumer) in broadcast. Specifically, my school is looking to buy a few decks to use in our (old) production van. We still use analog video (composite) for the video throughout the van. These will be replacing 2 Betacam SP units (a UVW-1800 and a PVW-2800), which have been (ab)used by the students. They need genlock capability. We'd like at least one of the units to have a jog-wheel (like the PVW-2800). Audio inputs would be unbalanced XLR, but we might be able to hack something to work with a different connector. I'm eyeing the JVC BR-DV6000U and the BR-DV600UA, but they are a bit pricey. We've budgeted around $1500, but if someone can justify a higher price, we'll be able to get the funds. So, this is what we need: Jog-Shuttle (1 unit) BlackBurst/Genlock Capability XLR Audio (could be adapted/modified) Composite Video Low Price :) Any Suggestions? Hope I posted in the right forum!

October 13th, 2003, 12:52 PM	#225
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	The only I know is that if you have a good enough DV camera the footage is definitely broadcast quality, no doubt about that! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors