The Gigantic Mini DV Deck / Camcorder as Deck Thread

Matt Stahley · September 15th, 2003, 03:12 PM

Yes DV is just 1s and 0s when you break it down it should play the miniDV tapes back fine. If the tapes are recorded in DVCAM mode on the 150 you may have trouble with certain cams not being able to play back the tape though.

Beth Pielert · September 15th, 2003, 03:38 PM

Thanks Matt, have you used or do you know of anyone who has used the SONY Walkman Mini-DV players as their playback and record deck?

I'm on the verge of buying one through SONY as they seem to be the most affordable.

best,

Joe Garnero · September 16th, 2003, 07:01 AM

Only the D100 is miniDV according to the Sony site. The lesser numbered models are all digital8...not the same by any measure.

For the price of the GV-D1000 you could buy a chep palmcorder and have some change left for accessories. (Not to mention the spare cam!)

I would also wonder if these WalkMan devices have consumer decks (same as in palmcorders) or pro decks? If they are consumer decks, then a palmcorder might be a better value.

Matt Stahley · September 16th, 2003, 02:26 PM

No i do not use or a Sony DV walkman deck but I'm sure they work great just a little exspensive for me.You could get a Panasonic or low end JVC deck for about the same price but they dont include the built in LCD screen but im sure the tape transports are more robust and they have more in/out options as well. i do use a Sony PC-110 to transfer my VX2k footage to my mac. The PC-110 was by no means a "cheap' cam but it was the first cam i bought and since the VX2k I dont use the 110 to shoot with much anymore except when a 2nd cam is needed.I would opt for the inexspensive camera over the walkman deck.

Corey MacGregor · September 16th, 2003, 03:00 PM

I've been using the gvd-1000 for over a year now and it works great, never have had a single problem with it. The lcd screen comes in handy as well. I'd say it's totally worth it.

Corey

Roze Ann · September 16th, 2003, 10:11 PM

I'm using a JVC GR-D30 as a deck. Got it from B&H Photo Video for $349. It uses the IEEE 1394 Firewire, has a flip out color screen and the standard b&w finder. It's cheap, works great and comes in handy as a backup cam. Here's the link:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=273696&is=REG

Beth Pielert · September 17th, 2003, 02:17 PM

Thanks all for the resources. I was able to get the GV-D1000 financed through SONY interest free for 12 months and I'm able to use it as a record deck from my camera to make dubs as well.

Will let you know how it works out.

Michel Brewer · September 18th, 2003, 02:08 AM

I have a friend whos been using one for a while with no problems, one thing if you havent already bought from sony...bh has it for about $250 dollars less than the sonystyle website. (or it did last week think it was 1049.00)

m

Dr. Jonas R. Skardis · September 22nd, 2003, 11:31 PM

For years I used a Sony GV-D900. It is like the newer GV-D1000, but better in that it had a 5.5" screen instead of the current 4" screen. The screen and its portability set it apart from usind a cheap DV cam as a deck. The 5.5" screen made it quite practical to show clients or others your footage, or to use it for proofing or just enjoying your footage while still out in the field. Also making it far better than a cam as a deck is the fact that the controls are much more accessible on the GV-D900 (or GV-D1000) than on a camera. This matters for simple things like cueing up or reviewing manually (not by device control from your NLE).

Jonas

Bryan Mitchell · October 1st, 2003, 01:32 PM

I have a cannon xl1s, and I was looking into purchasing a miniDV deck to get my video onto my computer via firewire connection. Which deck would you recommend?

Dylan Couper · October 1st, 2003, 02:23 PM

Do a search on miniDV decks. This topic must be one of the top 5 most frequent discussions.

Jacko Bultinck · October 2nd, 2003, 04:39 PM

found this on :

http://www.cdromshop.com

***********************************************
Yes, we ship to Belgium on a daily basis.

Minidv/Svhs Combo Deck - Firewire Enabled, Built-In Editing Features
Price: US$1236.82 = 1169.96 (IN STOCK!)
***********************************************

would this be any good ?? someone using this please ?
I can't find any reviews about this deck

thx
jacko

Mike Rehmus · October 2nd, 2003, 04:56 PM

You don't give enough information to know of which deck you are speaking.

the dual JVC decks have some bad press. I purchased 2 second-generation units for the local community college and they have been great. SVHS/VHS & miniDV with analog and digtial transfers to and from the computer (Apple G4's)

Jacko Bultinck · October 2nd, 2003, 05:06 PM

Mike,

thx for the reply

yes it's JVC indeed

If it has had bad press, then I'll forget about it

Josh Bass · October 2nd, 2003, 05:21 PM

Um. . .this maybe dumb, but just how bad IS using the cam for playback, capture, etc.? I don't do it every day, but maybe a few hours a week of rewinding, capture, etc. Also. . .while we're at it. . .any bad side effects of using the camera as a D/A converter for use with an external monitor (Vegas 4).

September 15th, 2003, 03:38 PM	#197
Beth Pielert New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 16	Thanks Matt, have you used or do you know of anyone who has used the SONY Walkman Mini-DV players as their playback and record deck? I'm on the verge of buying one through SONY as they seem to be the most affordable. best, __________________ Basa

September 16th, 2003, 10:11 PM	#201
Roze Ann Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 116	I'm using a JVC GR-D30 as a deck. Got it from B&H Photo Video for $349. It uses the IEEE 1394 Firewire, has a flip out color screen and the standard b&w finder. It's cheap, works great and comes in handy as a backup cam. Here's the link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=273696&is=REG __________________ "God is good, life is hard, Heaven is sure" Camille Daily Fat Cat Media

September 17th, 2003, 02:17 PM	#202
Beth Pielert New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 16	Thanks all for the resources. I was able to get the GV-D1000 financed through SONY interest free for 12 months and I'm able to use it as a record deck from my camera to make dubs as well. Will let you know how it works out. __________________ Basa

September 18th, 2003, 02:08 AM	#203
Michel Brewer Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ventura California Posts: 179	sony dv walkman I have a friend whos been using one for a while with no problems, one thing if you havent already bought from sony...bh has it for about $250 dollars less than the sonystyle website. (or it did last week think it was 1049.00) m

September 22nd, 2003, 11:31 PM	#204
Dr. Jonas R. Skardis New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 8	GV-D900 For years I used a Sony GV-D900. It is like the newer GV-D1000, but better in that it had a 5.5" screen instead of the current 4" screen. The screen and its portability set it apart from usind a cheap DV cam as a deck. The 5.5" screen made it quite practical to show clients or others your footage, or to use it for proofing or just enjoying your footage while still out in the field. Also making it far better than a cam as a deck is the fact that the controls are much more accessible on the GV-D900 (or GV-D1000) than on a camera. This matters for simple things like cueing up or reviewing manually (not by device control from your NLE). Jonas

September 15th, 2003, 03:12 PM	#196
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	Yes DV is just 1s and 0s when you break it down it should play the miniDV tapes back fine. If the tapes are recorded in DVCAM mode on the 150 you may have trouble with certain cams not being able to play back the tape though.

September 16th, 2003, 07:01 AM	#198
Joe Garnero Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 60	Only the D100 is miniDV according to the Sony site. The lesser numbered models are all digital8...not the same by any measure. For the price of the GV-D1000 you could buy a chep palmcorder and have some change left for accessories. (Not to mention the spare cam!) I would also wonder if these WalkMan devices have consumer decks (same as in palmcorders) or pro decks? If they are consumer decks, then a palmcorder might be a better value.

September 16th, 2003, 02:26 PM	#199
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	No i do not use or a Sony DV walkman deck but I'm sure they work great just a little exspensive for me.You could get a Panasonic or low end JVC deck for about the same price but they dont include the built in LCD screen but im sure the tape transports are more robust and they have more in/out options as well. i do use a Sony PC-110 to transfer my VX2k footage to my mac. The PC-110 was by no means a "cheap' cam but it was the first cam i bought and since the VX2k I dont use the 110 to shoot with much anymore except when a 2nd cam is needed.I would opt for the inexspensive camera over the walkman deck.

September 16th, 2003, 03:00 PM	#200
Corey MacGregor Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 74	I've been using the gvd-1000 for over a year now and it works great, never have had a single problem with it. The lcd screen comes in handy as well. I'd say it's totally worth it. Corey

October 1st, 2003, 01:32 PM	#205
Bryan Mitchell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 316	minidv deck I have a cannon xl1s, and I was looking into purchasing a miniDV deck to get my video onto my computer via firewire connection. Which deck would you recommend?

October 1st, 2003, 02:23 PM	#206
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Do a search on miniDV decks. This topic must be one of the top 5 most frequent discussions. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

October 2nd, 2003, 04:39 PM	#207
Jacko Bultinck Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: belgium Posts: 30	found this on : http://www.cdromshop.com ********************************************* Yes, we ship to Belgium on a daily basis. Minidv/Svhs Combo Deck - Firewire Enabled, Built-In Editing Features Price: US$1236.82 = 1169.96 (IN STOCK!) ********************************************* would this be any good ?? someone using this please ? I can't find any reviews about this deck thx jacko __________________ http://www.waxworld.be

October 2nd, 2003, 04:56 PM	#208
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	You don't give enough information to know of which deck you are speaking. the dual JVC decks have some bad press. I purchased 2 second-generation units for the local community college and they have been great. SVHS/VHS & miniDV with analog and digtial transfers to and from the computer (Apple G4's) __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

October 2nd, 2003, 05:06 PM	#209
Jacko Bultinck Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: belgium Posts: 30	Mike, thx for the reply yes it's JVC indeed If it has had bad press, then I'll forget about it __________________ http://www.waxworld.be

October 2nd, 2003, 05:21 PM	#210
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Um. . .this maybe dumb, but just how bad IS using the cam for playback, capture, etc.? I don't do it every day, but maybe a few hours a week of rewinding, capture, etc. Also. . .while we're at it. . .any bad side effects of using the camera as a D/A converter for use with an external monitor (Vegas 4). __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB