The Gigantic Mini DV Deck / Camcorder as Deck Thread

Robert Ismert · July 7th, 2003, 10:51 AM

And you are using the Canon XL1s?

No glitches or jumps?

Edward Troxel · July 7th, 2003, 12:01 PM

I'm using 3 different Canon XL-1 cameras (no "s"). Works just fine until one of the Canon's heads starts to get out of alignment. Then it's time to ship that camera back for repair.

Bob Safay · July 7th, 2003, 01:17 PM

I use both the Panasonic DV2000 and the DV1000. NEVER had a problem, and I shoot both the XL-1 and the XL-1s. Bob Safay

Robert Ismert · July 7th, 2003, 03:44 PM

what's the difference between the 1000 and 2000?

is it noticable?

I am editing using Premiere 6.5. does it matter how many lines the VTR has? I see that the 2000 has over 500 horizontal lines. will this give a higher quality image than the DV 1000?

Will I get a better image by using my XL1s to export footage to my PC?

Don Palomaki · July 7th, 2003, 06:07 PM

I shoot XL1 and Gl1. No probelms with playback of tapes in tapes in Sony DHR-1000 or GV-D300.

Nathan Gifford · July 8th, 2003, 09:10 AM

If you are recording in LP mode that may give you a few more problems. SP mode should work better (no change in resolution between SP & LP). Some people will use almost any dv device to use as a substitute deck.

Bob Safay · July 8th, 2003, 03:40 PM

There is a BIG difference. The DV1000 is a basic DV deck. Play, record, pause, a few audio ajustments. The DV2000 is an editing deck with frame accurate dials, and the capability to store edit in and out points of multipal scenes, edit scenes, and, it can control either a DV1000 or an LX-1 or 1s via firewire. It also allows you to record video over audio, insert new audio over video, or mix audio. It is much bigger and has a removeable control panal. The end product is truely beautiful. I use it to do my master tapes. Bob Safay

Kyle Baker · July 15th, 2003, 04:17 PM

the Sony DSR-1800, the DSR11 or the DSR25...

Adam Lawrence · July 16th, 2003, 10:47 PM

is it possible to play back or capture 24p footage from a DV deck that has been filmed with the DVX100? i understand the camera peforms a 3:2 pulldown but does this process take place from the actually filming to tape or from camera to NLE?

Thanks

Stephen van Vuuren · July 16th, 2003, 10:53 PM

Yes. Check the resources at the top of this forum for detailed info as this topic is covered in great detail there and in a number of threads.

Erik Selakoff · July 18th, 2003, 04:55 PM

I don't know much about the 25 or the 1800 but I've had the DSR11 for 6 months now & it's great. Worth every penny.

Boyd Ostroff · July 18th, 2003, 05:41 PM

I may need a deck that has component video output. Any suggestions? DSR-45?

Gary Chavez · July 21st, 2003, 11:14 AM

my DSR-45 has been typical Sony, great so far, 4 months old.
S-video, DV, and component. this has saved me many headaches being able to switch between the source types. no black burst box yet and my Beta 1800 wont talk to the DSR-45, so, straight to S-Video. Plus there is real cool factor to that tiny monitor. its pretty useless for any thing other than video verification, though.

Boyd Ostroff · July 21st, 2003, 05:36 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Gary Chavez : Plus there is real cool factor to that tiny monitor. its pretty useless for any thing other than video verification, though. -->>>

Actually my application would not be editing, but playback of video cues being sent to a projector as part of a multi-media production. I need component video to get the best results with a large DLP projector that takes component as the native input format. The little screen would be useful to preview and advance to the next cue.

Not sure if this is the best route for us, there are also software applications specifically for this but they're probably overkill for our needs...

David Bogie · July 22nd, 2003, 08:19 AM

Component output from DV is a waste of time. DV totally sucks compared to any other component recording format.

If image quality is important, put DV at the bottom of your list of possible choices.

Convenience and ubiquity are the only things DV has going for it.

bogiesan

July 7th, 2003, 10:51 AM	#166
Robert Ismert New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 10	Recommended DV DECK for XL1s ???? And you are using the Canon XL1s? No glitches or jumps? __________________ Help each other for a common good

July 7th, 2003, 03:44 PM	#169
Robert Ismert New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 10	what's the difference between the 1000 and 2000? is it noticable? I am editing using Premiere 6.5. does it matter how many lines the VTR has? I see that the 2000 has over 500 horizontal lines. will this give a higher quality image than the DV 1000? Will I get a better image by using my XL1s to export footage to my PC? __________________ Help each other for a common good

July 7th, 2003, 06:07 PM	#170
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	I shoot XL1 and Gl1. No probelms with playback of tapes in tapes in Sony DHR-1000 or GV-D300. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

July 8th, 2003, 09:10 AM	#171
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	If you are recording in LP mode that may give you a few more problems. SP mode should work better (no change in resolution between SP & LP). Some people will use almost any dv device to use as a substitute deck. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

July 15th, 2003, 04:17 PM	#173
Kyle Baker New Boot Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: san diego Posts: 22	which deck would you reccomend the Sony DSR-1800, the DSR11 or the DSR25...

July 7th, 2003, 12:01 PM	#167
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I'm using 3 different Canon XL-1 cameras (no "s"). Works just fine until one of the Canon's heads starts to get out of alignment. Then it's time to ship that camera back for repair.

July 7th, 2003, 01:17 PM	#168
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	I use both the Panasonic DV2000 and the DV1000. NEVER had a problem, and I shoot both the XL-1 and the XL-1s. Bob Safay

July 8th, 2003, 03:40 PM	#172
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	There is a BIG difference. The DV1000 is a basic DV deck. Play, record, pause, a few audio ajustments. The DV2000 is an editing deck with frame accurate dials, and the capability to store edit in and out points of multipal scenes, edit scenes, and, it can control either a DV1000 or an LX-1 or 1s via firewire. It also allows you to record video over audio, insert new audio over video, or mix audio. It is much bigger and has a removeable control panal. The end product is truely beautiful. I use it to do my master tapes. Bob Safay

July 16th, 2003, 10:47 PM	#174
Adam Lawrence _redone_ Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 224	DVX100 footage from DV deck is it possible to play back or capture 24p footage from a DV deck that has been filmed with the DVX100? i understand the camera peforms a 3:2 pulldown but does this process take place from the actually filming to tape or from camera to NLE? Thanks __________________ Adam Lawrence eatdrink Media Las Vegas NV www.eatdrinkmedia.com

July 16th, 2003, 10:53 PM	#175
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Yes. Check the resources at the top of this forum for detailed info as this topic is covered in great detail there and in a number of threads. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

July 18th, 2003, 04:55 PM	#176
Erik Selakoff Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 51	I don't know much about the 25 or the 1800 but I've had the DSR11 for 6 months now & it's great. Worth every penny.

July 18th, 2003, 05:41 PM	#177
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I may need a deck that has component video output. Any suggestions? DSR-45?

July 21st, 2003, 11:14 AM	#178
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	my DSR-45 has been typical Sony, great so far, 4 months old. S-video, DV, and component. this has saved me many headaches being able to switch between the source types. no black burst box yet and my Beta 1800 wont talk to the DSR-45, so, straight to S-Video. Plus there is real cool factor to that tiny monitor. its pretty useless for any thing other than video verification, though.

July 21st, 2003, 05:36 PM	#179
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	<<<-- Originally posted by Gary Chavez : Plus there is real cool factor to that tiny monitor. its pretty useless for any thing other than video verification, though. -->>> Actually my application would not be editing, but playback of video cues being sent to a projector as part of a multi-media production. I need component video to get the best results with a large DLP projector that takes component as the native input format. The little screen would be useful to preview and advance to the next cue. Not sure if this is the best route for us, there are also software applications specifically for this but they're probably overkill for our needs...

July 22nd, 2003, 08:19 AM	#180
David Bogie New Boot Join Date: May 2002 Location: boise, idaho Posts: 8	Component output from DV is a waste of time. DV totally sucks compared to any other component recording format. If image quality is important, put DV at the bottom of your list of possible choices. Convenience and ubiquity are the only things DV has going for it. bogiesan __________________ David Bogie ristretto doppio My other two cars are a Tour Easy and a Cannondale.