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George Saunders · March 18th, 2004, 04:39 PM

Hello, I have isolated a problem that I feel is attributed to my Panasonic AY-DVM63MQ "MASTER" tapes. Basically, I get a sound buzz when pausing or scurbbing in the capture window of Premiere Pro using a Matrox RTX100 card. A whole thread regarding this problem can be found here on the Matrox board...

http://forum.matrox.com/cgi-bin/rtx100/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=001331

My question is, what are your opinions regarding the best mini DV tape to use?

I shoot with a GL2 and use a JVC SR-VS30U as an editing deck.

I never had problems with the Pani Masters with my Pinnacle DV-500 setup. The pani "Professionals" I notice a fair amount of drop-outs and would rather use a better tape.

Anyone?

Jeff Donald · March 18th, 2004, 05:07 PM

What happens when you play back the camera original tape, in the camera that recorded it? In other words, if you recorded the tape in the GL2, capture it using the GL2.

George Saunders · March 18th, 2004, 05:12 PM

Hi Jeff,
Tried playing back those Masters in all my cameras and decks. Still get the buzz. However, if I switch to the Pro tapes, works fine. I even tried a Master tape from last year to check if I got a bad batch. Same noise buzz. Something about those Master tapes and my setup with my Matrox does not jell.

What kind of tapes are you using?

Jeff Donald · March 18th, 2004, 05:26 PM

So the answer to my question is you captured from the camera that recorded the tape, yes?

I use Panasonic AY-DVM60EJ. Rarely a dropout, if there is it's always in the first or last minute. No audio problems.

George Saunders · March 18th, 2004, 06:29 PM

Thanks, Jeff.

Yes, I use a GL2 and that was the first camera I tried. However, when I first did try it I made the mistake of using a "Pro" tape and it worked fine. Then I realized my mistake, tried the "Master" tape I was having problems with and voila - same problems with the same tape in my GL2 - "capture" deck. I tired a combination of camera, decks and tapes after that and it all came down to the Panasonic Master tapes.

What camera are you using, Jeff? GL2? That EJ tape is half the price. What's up with that?

Jeff Donald · March 18th, 2004, 08:18 PM

I use an XL1s and I used to own an XL1 until a few months ago. Never a problem with the pro tapes, only tape I've ever used. But many XL1 users here use the Master tape and swear buy it. I have no explanation as to how a switch in tapes would cause a hum. It baffles me.

George Saunders · March 19th, 2004, 09:24 AM

Jeff,
I was completely baffled and frustrated too. I could not understand how a tape was causing a sound problem. Slept on it and tried a new experiment.

Success.

The tapes I shot in "Movie Frame" mode on my GL2 which I suppose is Canon's progressive scan are the tapes that are causing all the buzz upon capture. Are you familiar with the Matrox? Is there a setting I need to adjust to fix this problem when I capture tapes recorded in Frame mode on Canons?

George Saunders · March 19th, 2004, 09:44 AM

Matrox just informed me:

"Please note that RT.X100 does not support progressive mode. Therefore, there are no available settings to adjust to capture these tapes with RT.X100."

I shoot most of my work in progressive. Any solutions would be appreciated.

March 18th, 2004, 04:39 PM	#1
George Saunders New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Delray Beach, Florida Posts: 12	Panasonic DV tape problem Hello, I have isolated a problem that I feel is attributed to my Panasonic AY-DVM63MQ "MASTER" tapes. Basically, I get a sound buzz when pausing or scurbbing in the capture window of Premiere Pro using a Matrox RTX100 card. A whole thread regarding this problem can be found here on the Matrox board... http://forum.matrox.com/cgi-bin/rtx100/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=001331 My question is, what are your opinions regarding the best mini DV tape to use? I shoot with a GL2 and use a JVC SR-VS30U as an editing deck. I never had problems with the Pani Masters with my Pinnacle DV-500 setup. The pani "Professionals" I notice a fair amount of drop-outs and would rather use a better tape. Anyone? __________________ George Saunders

March 18th, 2004, 05:07 PM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	What happens when you play back the camera original tape, in the camera that recorded it? In other words, if you recorded the tape in the GL2, capture it using the GL2. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 18th, 2004, 05:12 PM	#3
George Saunders New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Delray Beach, Florida Posts: 12	Hi Jeff, Tried playing back those Masters in all my cameras and decks. Still get the buzz. However, if I switch to the Pro tapes, works fine. I even tried a Master tape from last year to check if I got a bad batch. Same noise buzz. Something about those Master tapes and my setup with my Matrox does not jell. What kind of tapes are you using? __________________ George Saunders

March 18th, 2004, 05:26 PM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	So the answer to my question is you captured from the camera that recorded the tape, yes? I use Panasonic AY-DVM60EJ. Rarely a dropout, if there is it's always in the first or last minute. No audio problems. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 18th, 2004, 06:29 PM	#5
George Saunders New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Delray Beach, Florida Posts: 12	Thanks, Jeff. Yes, I use a GL2 and that was the first camera I tried. However, when I first did try it I made the mistake of using a "Pro" tape and it worked fine. Then I realized my mistake, tried the "Master" tape I was having problems with and voila - same problems with the same tape in my GL2 - "capture" deck. I tired a combination of camera, decks and tapes after that and it all came down to the Panasonic Master tapes. What camera are you using, Jeff? GL2? That EJ tape is half the price. What's up with that? __________________ George Saunders

March 18th, 2004, 08:18 PM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I use an XL1s and I used to own an XL1 until a few months ago. Never a problem with the pro tapes, only tape I've ever used. But many XL1 users here use the Master tape and swear buy it. I have no explanation as to how a switch in tapes would cause a hum. It baffles me. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 19th, 2004, 09:24 AM	#7
George Saunders New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Delray Beach, Florida Posts: 12	Jeff, I was completely baffled and frustrated too. I could not understand how a tape was causing a sound problem. Slept on it and tried a new experiment. Success. The tapes I shot in "Movie Frame" mode on my GL2 which I suppose is Canon's progressive scan are the tapes that are causing all the buzz upon capture. Are you familiar with the Matrox? Is there a setting I need to adjust to fix this problem when I capture tapes recorded in Frame mode on Canons? __________________ George Saunders

March 19th, 2004, 09:44 AM	#8
George Saunders New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Delray Beach, Florida Posts: 12	Matrox just informed me: "Please note that RT.X100 does not support progressive mode. Therefore, there are no available settings to adjust to capture these tapes with RT.X100." I shoot most of my work in progressive. Any solutions would be appreciated. __________________ George Saunders