Sony's DVCAM tape in DVX100A at DVinfo.net

Vincent Im · January 23rd, 2004, 11:26 AM

Is it possible to use Sony's DVCAM tape in DVX100A? Just curious about the compatibility of these tapes.

Is it correct that Panasonic's Master series tapes are higher quality than Panasonics Pro series tapes?

Thank you,
Vincent

Scott Plowman · January 23rd, 2004, 03:48 PM

Sonys DV CAm tape is larger than mini DV .. OR you can use mini DV tape in sony PD150 and it will burn it to DV CAM format.. So DV cam is moreso a foremat than a tape.. although I believe Sony does make the larger DV CAM Tape.. Hope this helps

Scott Plowman · January 23rd, 2004, 03:51 PM

DVX100 does not burn to this format.. Sorry

Martin Garrison · January 23rd, 2004, 05:35 PM

Format schmormat. The tapes will work fine in your panasonic camera. You can record DV SP to "DVCAM" tapes and you can record DVCAM to "DV" tapes. The difference in formats is tape speed. So if you record to a "40 minute - DVCAM" tape in DV format you will actually get 60 minutes on the tape; and Vis-a-versa: a 60-minute miniDV tape will only record for 40 minutes in a DVCAM.

Many people like Fuji tape best, there's a study online somewhere. But if you pick a tape and stick with it you should be fine. I always use the "sony premiums" in my DVC-80. Because that's what my employer at the time used and I was shooting for them occasionally. Now I just stick with them. Changing tape formats can cause an increase tendency toward head clogs and dropped frames.

Barry Green · January 23rd, 2004, 08:52 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Scott Plowman : Sonys DV CAm tape is larger than mini DV .. -->>>

DVCam tapes come in two sizes, large and mini, just like regular DV tape does.

You can certainly use DVCAM tape in your DVX100 -- the DVX will record DV data on it, and the tape will last longer than the stated runtime (i.e., a 40-minute DVCam tape will last 60 minutes when recording DV data on it).

You will not gain the advantages of DVCam, because the camera doesn't record DVCam format (the main advantage being greater dropout resistance due to recording the image across a larger piece of tape).

So, DVCam tape will work. However, you could also look into getting Panasonic Master series tape, which is much less expensive and just as good as DVCam tape.

Vincent Im · January 23rd, 2004, 08:56 PM

Thanks for the info everyone. I had assumed that it would work but wasn't sure if there would be any gained benefits over the Panasonics's Master Series tapes. I'll be using the Master Series tapes. Thanks again.

Vincent

Andre Andreev · January 26th, 2004, 06:21 PM

Many lenghty discussions end with the following conclusion:

- dvx was designed for dry lube type tapes
- it is certain that the MQ series panasonic tapes do indeed use dry lube
- there are uncomfirmed rumors that PQ tapes, or some PQ tapes, are, or will be dry lube. No official word from panasonic.
- whatever you do, do not change tape stock. Horror stories abound.

My personal choice is to use MQ tapes only. I buy at tapeandmedia.com and am happy with the price/service.

Regards,
-- Andre

Andre Andreev · January 28th, 2004, 05:57 PM

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Kent Diamond · February 8th, 2004, 11:13 PM

A Panasonic rep confirmed that the PQ tapes use the same dry lubracant as the MQs. There was some initial miscommunication between the factory and the sales office on this fact.

January 23rd, 2004, 11:26 AM	#1
Vincent Im New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 19	Sony's DVCAM tape in DVX100A Is it possible to use Sony's DVCAM tape in DVX100A? Just curious about the compatibility of these tapes. Is it correct that Panasonic's Master series tapes are higher quality than Panasonics Pro series tapes? Thank you, Vincent

January 26th, 2004, 06:21 PM	#7
Andre Andreev Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 98	One more thing: dry vs liquid lube Many lenghty discussions end with the following conclusion: - dvx was designed for dry lube type tapes - it is certain that the MQ series panasonic tapes do indeed use dry lube - there are uncomfirmed rumors that PQ tapes, or some PQ tapes, are, or will be dry lube. No official word from panasonic. - whatever you do, do not change tape stock. Horror stories abound. My personal choice is to use MQ tapes only. I buy at tapeandmedia.com and am happy with the price/service. Regards, -- Andre

January 28th, 2004, 05:57 PM	#8
Andre Andreev Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 98	minidv lubricants page this is an excellent link: http://www.hosannaproductions.com/tips/minidv_lubricants.html

January 23rd, 2004, 03:48 PM	#2
Scott Plowman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kansas City, Kansas, USA Posts: 85	Sonys DV CAm tape is larger than mini DV .. OR you can use mini DV tape in sony PD150 and it will burn it to DV CAM format.. So DV cam is moreso a foremat than a tape.. although I believe Sony does make the larger DV CAM Tape.. Hope this helps

January 23rd, 2004, 03:51 PM	#3
Scott Plowman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kansas City, Kansas, USA Posts: 85	DVX100 does not burn to this format.. Sorry

January 23rd, 2004, 05:35 PM	#4
Martin Garrison Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 173	Format schmormat. The tapes will work fine in your panasonic camera. You can record DV SP to "DVCAM" tapes and you can record DVCAM to "DV" tapes. The difference in formats is tape speed. So if you record to a "40 minute - DVCAM" tape in DV format you will actually get 60 minutes on the tape; and Vis-a-versa: a 60-minute miniDV tape will only record for 40 minutes in a DVCAM. Many people like Fuji tape best, there's a study online somewhere. But if you pick a tape and stick with it you should be fine. I always use the "sony premiums" in my DVC-80. Because that's what my employer at the time used and I was shooting for them occasionally. Now I just stick with them. Changing tape formats can cause an increase tendency toward head clogs and dropped frames.

January 23rd, 2004, 08:52 PM	#5
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	<<<-- Originally posted by Scott Plowman : Sonys DV CAm tape is larger than mini DV .. -->>> DVCam tapes come in two sizes, large and mini, just like regular DV tape does. You can certainly use DVCAM tape in your DVX100 -- the DVX will record DV data on it, and the tape will last longer than the stated runtime (i.e., a 40-minute DVCam tape will last 60 minutes when recording DV data on it). You will not gain the advantages of DVCam, because the camera doesn't record DVCam format (the main advantage being greater dropout resistance due to recording the image across a larger piece of tape). So, DVCam tape will work. However, you could also look into getting Panasonic Master series tape, which is much less expensive and just as good as DVCam tape.

January 23rd, 2004, 08:56 PM	#6
Vincent Im New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 19	Thanks for the info everyone. I had assumed that it would work but wasn't sure if there would be any gained benefits over the Panasonics's Master Series tapes. I'll be using the Master Series tapes. Thanks again. Vincent

February 8th, 2004, 11:13 PM	#9
Kent Diamond New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Redmond, Washington Posts: 24	A Panasonic rep confirmed that the PQ tapes use the same dry lubracant as the MQs. There was some initial miscommunication between the factory and the sales office on this fact.