tapes "sticking"

Russ Holland · March 21st, 2008, 03:14 PM

Hi

I've got a Sony HC7 at work, which has hardly been used. I am in sole control of it and I know fully it's use, it was brought last summer. The pack of tapes that was brought with it all seem to stick on playback. there is no distortion in the image, no blocking or lines, it just pauses for a few seconds, then plays back a few more seconds, then sticks, etc. I thought it was a dodgy tape, so I opened another and sure enough, the same thing.

Last week I brought a brand new HC3 for my own use. I thought I'd give it a go with the work tapes to see if it was the camera but they do it in my camera to. The make of the tapes is JVC DV60ME. Some of the tapes are high grade, some are normal. Has anyone else had this with the Sony HDV units and JVC tapes? I have cleaned the heads but nothing seems to fix it.

If someone could help me out, that would be really great!

Thanks,

Russ

Dan Keaton · March 23rd, 2008, 06:45 AM

Dear Russ,

This does not sound like a tape issue to me.

However, to rule out tape issues, I would Fast Forward and then Rewind the tapes prior to playing or capturing, just as a test.

If you are going to record on these suspect tapes, FF and then Rewind before recording.

It is not clear to me if you have already captured the tapes and then are playing back. I assume that you have not already captured from your post.

I would FF and then Rewind, then capture the tape, checking for dropped frames, then play the captured footage.

Allan Black · March 23rd, 2008, 07:42 AM

Russ, if those tapes stick in both machines, get rid of them.

IMO they are contaminated stock, either faulty manufacture or badly stored somewhere. By trying to use them, you're just depositing gunk on the guides and heads which may end up with a trip to the shop to get them cleaned.

Cheers.

Russ Holland · March 26th, 2008, 10:11 AM

Thanks for the replies.
Yes I had already recorded on the tapes, and was playing back my footage when I noticed it. It doesn't seem to do it in SD though, only HD. I found a forum elsewhere here that Sony HD cameras have the problem??

I have ff and rewind all the way through, I do that standard practice, also recorded blank to get a constant timecode just in case this was the issue.

I have got rid of the tapes anyway. Thanks.

Ben Winter · March 27th, 2008, 07:08 AM

Interesting. I had this problem with an FX1 and the Sony HD master tapes. I surmise that either it's a bad batch or I exposed the tapes to extreme temperatures at one point.

March 21st, 2008, 03:14 PM	#1
Russ Holland Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burton on Trent, UK Posts: 193	tapes "sticking" - help please Hi I've got a Sony HC7 at work, which has hardly been used. I am in sole control of it and I know fully it's use, it was brought last summer. The pack of tapes that was brought with it all seem to stick on playback. there is no distortion in the image, no blocking or lines, it just pauses for a few seconds, then plays back a few more seconds, then sticks, etc. I thought it was a dodgy tape, so I opened another and sure enough, the same thing. Last week I brought a brand new HC3 for my own use. I thought I'd give it a go with the work tapes to see if it was the camera but they do it in my camera to. The make of the tapes is JVC DV60ME. Some of the tapes are high grade, some are normal. Has anyone else had this with the Sony HDV units and JVC tapes? I have cleaned the heads but nothing seems to fix it. If someone could help me out, that would be really great! Thanks, Russ __________________ Sony Alpha a57 \| RODE VideoMic \| Adobe Premiere CS5 Manfrotto 785b \| Manfrotto 718b

March 23rd, 2008, 06:45 AM	#2
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Russ, This does not sound like a tape issue to me. However, to rule out tape issues, I would Fast Forward and then Rewind the tapes prior to playing or capturing, just as a test. If you are going to record on these suspect tapes, FF and then Rewind before recording. It is not clear to me if you have already captured the tapes and then are playing back. I assume that you have not already captured from your post. I would FF and then Rewind, then capture the tape, checking for dropped frames, then play the captured footage. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

March 26th, 2008, 10:11 AM	#4
Russ Holland Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burton on Trent, UK Posts: 193	Thanks for the replies. Yes I had already recorded on the tapes, and was playing back my footage when I noticed it. It doesn't seem to do it in SD though, only HD. I found a forum elsewhere here that Sony HD cameras have the problem?? I have ff and rewind all the way through, I do that standard practice, also recorded blank to get a constant timecode just in case this was the issue. I have got rid of the tapes anyway. Thanks. __________________ Sony Alpha a57 \| RODE VideoMic \| Adobe Premiere CS5 Manfrotto 785b \| Manfrotto 718b

March 27th, 2008, 07:08 AM	#5
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	Interesting. I had this problem with an FX1 and the Sony HD master tapes. I surmise that either it's a bad batch or I exposed the tapes to extreme temperatures at one point. __________________ BenWinter.com

March 23rd, 2008, 07:42 AM	#3
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,928	Russ, if those tapes stick in both machines, get rid of them. IMO they are contaminated stock, either faulty manufacture or badly stored somewhere. By trying to use them, you're just depositing gunk on the guides and heads which may end up with a trip to the shop to get them cleaned. Cheers.