Canon A1 tape deck broken-from cassettes? at DVinfo.net

Monica Dolejsi · September 27th, 2007, 02:31 PM

I was using minidv tapes to record hdv on my Canon A1, which worked fine, but since having the deck break on me, I'm going to switch to HDV just in case....

Chris Soucy · September 27th, 2007, 08:34 PM

Could you run that past me just one more time, I think I may have a vague idea what you were saying, but not entirely sure.

CS

Monica Dolejsi · September 28th, 2007, 04:29 PM

Sorry I tend to not detail enough.

Point being: its probably best to use the proper HDV tapes in the HDV camera
because the tape deck on my camera broke (its in the factory now being fixed)

There was a discussion on here about being able to record HDV on to the old miniDV tapes without problems. Opting for this cheaper way, I've done this and had no problems in quality loss or drop outs, but recently the camera broke in that I get an "Eject tape" error when I load tapes now.

So when I get my camera back I'm only gonna use HDV tapes when recording HDV.
Just thought I'd share.

Jim Andrada · September 29th, 2007, 12:44 AM

What was the exact wording of the error message?

There's been a lot of discussion about the famous "Eject the casette" error on a couple of different Canon cameras.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=88857

This is a link to one such thread - not sure it's really the same problem, but worth checking into.

I really doubt it has anything to do with whether you're using DV or HDV tape. I might be wrong, of course, but it's worth looking into.

Dan Keaton · September 29th, 2007, 06:55 AM

MiniDV and HDV tapes are in the same form fractor. Either one fits perfectly.

Of course, it is desirable to use high quality tapes, especially for HDV. A dropout in HDV may cause you to lose 1/2 second of video.

Any good to excellent quality MiniDV tape will not harm your tape deck.

Of course, switching tape brands is (or may be) an issue.

Many conservative users insisting on choosing a good brand of tape and using it exclusively.

To be clear, by exclusively, I mean for both recording and playback. So if you choose Panasonic tapes, and someone gives you another brand to play, a conservative user will decline.

Monica Dolejsi · October 2nd, 2007, 11:51 AM

wow there is alot of people going through the same crap as me. I hope Canon is aware of this defect.

I did use different brands of mini dv tape, so when I get it back fixed again (they sent it back unfixed last time) I'll be sure to go the "conservative" route

Per Johan Naesje · October 3rd, 2007, 09:47 AM

Monica,
I've been using mini dv tape in my Canon XLH1 since I got it January this year. The brand I'm using is Sony Premium mini dv tapes. I have run several hundred through the camcorder under very tough conditions without any issues, I'm a wildlifephotographer.
My advise is to stick to the same brand from the beginning and you should be safe. Pick a brand which is easily available in your area, buy them in vast numbers for discount.

Your tape deck issue has nothing to do with what kind of tapes you are using, which is stated in a previous thread.

Hope you get the deck fixed soon and good luck!

J. Stephen McDonald · October 23rd, 2007, 05:15 AM

Is the "Canon A1" the model number for an HDV camcorder sold in your region?
This confused me, as the Canon A1 I have, is an 18-year old Hi-8 camcorder.

September 27th, 2007, 02:31 PM	#1
Monica Dolejsi Tourist Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 3	Canon A1 tape deck broken-from cassettes? I was using minidv tapes to record hdv on my Canon A1, which worked fine, but since having the deck break on me, I'm going to switch to HDV just in case....

September 27th, 2007, 08:34 PM	#2
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,688 Images: 18	Hmmm, Monica........... Could you run that past me just one more time, I think I may have a vague idea what you were saying, but not entirely sure. CS

September 29th, 2007, 06:55 AM	#5
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	MiniDV and HDV tapes are in the same form fractor. Either one fits perfectly. Of course, it is desirable to use high quality tapes, especially for HDV. A dropout in HDV may cause you to lose 1/2 second of video. Any good to excellent quality MiniDV tape will not harm your tape deck. Of course, switching tape brands is (or may be) an issue. Many conservative users insisting on choosing a good brand of tape and using it exclusively. To be clear, by exclusively, I mean for both recording and playback. So if you choose Panasonic tapes, and someone gives you another brand to play, a conservative user will decline. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

October 2nd, 2007, 11:51 AM	#6
Monica Dolejsi Tourist Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 3	wow there is alot of people going through the same crap as me. I hope Canon is aware of this defect. I did use different brands of mini dv tape, so when I get it back fixed again (they sent it back unfixed last time) I'll be sure to go the "conservative" route Last edited by Monica Dolejsi; October 2nd, 2007 at 11:52 AM. Reason: spell

October 3rd, 2007, 09:47 AM	#7
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Monica, I've been using mini dv tape in my Canon XLH1 since I got it January this year. The brand I'm using is Sony Premium mini dv tapes. I have run several hundred through the camcorder under very tough conditions without any issues, I'm a wildlifephotographer. My advise is to stick to the same brand from the beginning and you should be safe. Pick a brand which is easily available in your area, buy them in vast numbers for discount. Your tape deck issue has nothing to do with what kind of tapes you are using, which is stated in a previous thread. Hope you get the deck fixed soon and good luck! __________________ - Per Johan

September 28th, 2007, 04:29 PM	#3
Monica Dolejsi Tourist Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 3	Sorry I tend to not detail enough. Point being: its probably best to use the proper HDV tapes in the HDV camera because the tape deck on my camera broke (its in the factory now being fixed) There was a discussion on here about being able to record HDV on to the old miniDV tapes without problems. Opting for this cheaper way, I've done this and had no problems in quality loss or drop outs, but recently the camera broke in that I get an "Eject tape" error when I load tapes now. So when I get my camera back I'm only gonna use HDV tapes when recording HDV. Just thought I'd share.

September 29th, 2007, 12:44 AM	#4
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	What was the exact wording of the error message? There's been a lot of discussion about the famous "Eject the casette" error on a couple of different Canon cameras. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=88857 This is a link to one such thread - not sure it's really the same problem, but worth checking into. I really doubt it has anything to do with whether you're using DV or HDV tape. I might be wrong, of course, but it's worth looking into.

October 23rd, 2007, 05:15 AM	#8
J. Stephen McDonald Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 909	Is the "Canon A1" the model number for an HDV camcorder sold in your region? This confused me, as the Canon A1 I have, is an 18-year old Hi-8 camcorder. __________________ Steve McDonald https://onedrive.com/?cid=229807ce52dd4fe0 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22121562@N00/ http://www.vimeo.com/user458315/videos