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John Moon · July 30th, 2007, 08:14 AM

We logged some footage from a wedding and this particular tape jumps a frame and seems to be timed the same time each time. Probably a bad tape because we have used the same camera after without any problems. So....the million dollar question is: Is there anything we can do in post to correct this?
Thanks,
John

Dawn Brennan · July 30th, 2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by John Moon

We logged some footage from a wedding and this particular tape jumps a frame and seems to be timed the same time each time. Probably a bad tape because we have used the same camera after without any problems. So....the million dollar question is: Is there anything we can do in post to correct this?
Thanks,
John

I am curious... which tapes are you using?? I use Sony Premium, and I have had a similar problem lately with several tapes. When I layed one tape over another for a multi-cam edit, the jumps/skips happened at the exact same time. Thankfully, the cameras weren't turned on at the exact same time, so we were able to edit around it.

Anyway, I am wondering if it isn't an ongoing problem...

Sean Johnson · July 30th, 2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawn Brennan

I am curious... which tapes are you using?? I use Sony Premium, and I have had a similar problem lately with several tapes. When I layed one tape over another for a multi-cam edit, the jumps/skips happened at the exact same time. Thankfully, the cameras weren't turned on at the exact same time, so we were able to edit around it.

Anyway, I am wondering if it isn't an ongoing problem...

i also use those tapes and a couple of times i've gotten those skips. its going to cause problems during capture. the problem being the audio out of sync. all you can really do is manually sync the audio back up after the skip. or you can capture to the skip. stop. then start capturing again after it. i hope this helps.

Steven Davis · July 30th, 2007, 10:46 AM

If I understand your 'jump' correctly, I've seen this on the Maxell Red tapes, the one's from Sams Club. I wish I knew what it was, but who knows. The issue is rare with me, rare enough that I know better than to only run one camera at a wedding, so we can edit around it.

John Moon · July 30th, 2007, 12:05 PM

The tapes I have been using is the Panasonic AY-DVM63PQ. The jump occurs throughout the entire tape. It's as if you cut one frame out causing the image to "jump" ever so slightly.

John

Steven Davis · July 30th, 2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by John Moon

The tapes I have been using is the Panasonic AY-DVM63PQ. The jump occurs throughout the entire tape. It's as if you cut one frame out causing the image to "jump" ever so slightly.

John

Wow, hmmm, did you notice anything on the LCD when you were recording?

Dawn Brennan · July 30th, 2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Johnson

i also use those tapes and a couple of times i've gotten those skips. its going to cause problems during capture. the problem being the audio out of sync. all you can really do is manually sync the audio back up after the skip. or you can capture to the skip. stop. then start capturing again after it. i hope this helps.

Not that I am glad you are having problems, but I am glad it isn't just me! During capture, I do sometimes have problems, like you said, but I also get this weird thing where the audio is fine, but there is no video for a frame or 2, so if I do 2 tracks at once, it'll flash to the bottom track for a frame or 2 because there is nothing on the top one. Very annoying and almost impossible to track unless you sit there and watch the whole thing w/o blinking :)

I never had the problem with the Sony HD tapes, but they are so darned expensive, I tried these instead. I'm actually going to check and see if there is a grade inbetween to try. That is after I finish the case of these I just bought!

John Moon · July 30th, 2007, 05:24 PM

Steve: Didn't notice anything on the LCD. We are trying a recapture to see if that might solve the problem.

Heather Darling · August 1st, 2007, 08:25 PM

Ive had the similar problem happen on a rare occasion while digitizing. I think it could be a problem with "dirty" heads. When I run a head cleaner and try it again it clears up.

Hope this helps!

John Moon · August 3rd, 2007, 04:31 PM

Thanks Heather. We captured the tape again and cleared up the problem. Strange.

July 30th, 2007, 08:14 AM	#1
John Moon Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 446	Tape jumps We logged some footage from a wedding and this particular tape jumps a frame and seems to be timed the same time each time. Probably a bad tape because we have used the same camera after without any problems. So....the million dollar question is: Is there anything we can do in post to correct this? Thanks, John __________________ John J. Moon www.northernlightfilmworks.com - Event DV Top 25 Recipient

July 30th, 2007, 10:46 AM	#4
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	If I understand your 'jump' correctly, I've seen this on the Maxell Red tapes, the one's from Sams Club. I wish I knew what it was, but who knows. The issue is rare with me, rare enough that I know better than to only run one camera at a wedding, so we can edit around it. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

July 30th, 2007, 12:05 PM	#5
John Moon Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 446	The tapes I have been using is the Panasonic AY-DVM63PQ. The jump occurs throughout the entire tape. It's as if you cut one frame out causing the image to "jump" ever so slightly. John __________________ John J. Moon www.northernlightfilmworks.com - Event DV Top 25 Recipient

July 30th, 2007, 05:24 PM	#8
John Moon Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 446	Steve: Didn't notice anything on the LCD. We are trying a recapture to see if that might solve the problem. __________________ John J. Moon www.northernlightfilmworks.com - Event DV Top 25 Recipient

August 3rd, 2007, 04:31 PM	#10
John Moon Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 446	Thanks Heather. We captured the tape again and cleared up the problem. Strange. __________________ John J. Moon www.northernlightfilmworks.com - Event DV Top 25 Recipient

August 1st, 2007, 08:25 PM	#9
Heather Darling Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 37	Ive had the similar problem happen on a rare occasion while digitizing. I think it could be a problem with "dirty" heads. When I run a head cleaner and try it again it clears up. Hope this helps!