What tripod are you using with your HM700?

Chris Soucy · December 11th, 2009, 08:28 PM

A bit late to the party as this isn't a usual hangout for me, but thought I'd add my 2 cents worth.

I'm a bit puzzled by your friend recommending a Vision 5 AS, what with the camera only weighing in at 8 lbs or so, and having (from appearances) a COG somewhat lower than a gnats kneecap.

That being the case, the 5 AS should (and probably does) bounce that 700 back towards the horizontal faster than Captain Kangaroo as soon as the pan bar is let go - unless you've got the tilt drag on the "Emergency Stop" setting.

That you haven't mentioned it either means you have the camera pimped out to Mack truck proportions and it thus works with the "perfect Balance" system, or you haven't noticed that tendency to drag you off the ground every time you attempt a backward tilt, which means you know even less about camera support systems than your friend.

So, assuming it's the latter, you can save yourself a cool $1,000 (I jest not) by trading that 5 AS in for a 3 AS and have one of the finest support systems on the market for your $2,5000 bucks.

That the 3 AS will allow you to set the counterbalance perfectly for your camera will be an added bonus worth more than that saved $1000!

Do tell your friend not to give up the day job.

CS

PS: In the extremely unlikely event that the "Mack Truck" scenario prevails and you have, actually, got the 5 AS perfect balance system functioning correctly, a move to any other head (of any make) would be such a retrograde step you would have every right to kick yourself around the largest city block in town about 30 times. Repeat every time you use the camera and alternative support system.

Jay Kaley · December 12th, 2009, 09:33 PM

Hello Chris, that's some first reply.

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Originally Posted by Chris Soucy

That you haven't mentioned it either means you have the camera pimped out to Mack truck proportions and it thus works with the "perfect Balance" system, or you haven't noticed that tendency to drag you off the ground every time you attempt a backward tilt, which means you know even less about camera support systems than your friend.

Or, it means I posted a thread called "What tripod are you using with your HM700", hoping to hear some of the specific tripods others are using with this recently released camera.

Interesting yarn though, make up your own little fantasy about Mack trucks and emergency stop settings, then make a total guess about how much I know about tripods and take some shots at me. Good to meet you too.

I used the tripod for about 15 minutes, realized it was "overkill" as I stated in the original post, and it's been returned.

I could make spin my own little tale about what your story is, make a guess about what you know and take some stabs at you but it's kinda silly, and I've got some editing to do.

I don't know a whole lot about FCP, fire away if it makes ya feel good.

Thanks for the replies about what tripods you're using with this JVC fellas, helped out.

Chris Soucy · December 13th, 2009, 12:28 AM

Good, you returned it, at least that was possible.

If you want to know more about what I know, take a wander over to the Camera Support forum and spend a while browsing.

Oh, and the Articles section has a bit of my work too (not exactly Shakespear, but hey, this is show business).

Anything you found in my post that was objectionable probably describes a situation that does and has happened over in that forum, with the users/owners blissfully unaware that there was anything actually wrong.

If I offended you, I appologise, it was not intentional, but sometime it can take quite a bit of work to get peoples attention, especially if their knowledge level is minimal (hey, you didn't give me much to work on - come on!).

Whatever, hope you and your camera system live long and prosper.

Drop into the CSF if you really want an answer to CS questions.

CS

Jay Kaley · December 13th, 2009, 01:43 AM

If you tried, and looked at it from a first post perspective, you might be able to find something objectionable in there. Maybe not, thats cool too.

It doesn't always take "quite a bit of work" to get someones interest, it can be easy too. You could read the thread, possibly even ask a question or two instead of assuming "blissfull unawareness", and maybe even respond to what the thread specifically asked about.

Or you could go the way you went, your first post tells me what I don't know, and you're second post telling me how much you know, and never actually answer an 11-day old question, while typing about how hard it is to get someone's attention sometimes.

Not sure what you're talking about with all that, and I'm sure you're a tripod/support specialist, but I was just asking about specific tripods for the HM700, and I thought I gave plenty of information on the first page.

And not offended at all, just an interesting introduction you have there. And my friend is very good about all of it, he suggested the V5 because I wasn't decided on big cam/small cam at the time, he had the V5 in, so let me take a try with it. The Vinten 3 is a fine tripod, I'm either going with that or a sachtler FSB(6or8), my good friend is arranging for me to try both, and letting me use a nice loaner in the process.

I didn't think I needed to write all that, when what I wanted to know was specific tripods folks are using on the HM700. Specifically, that they are using, or have used. Now you're up to speed sufficiently on my situation, and not still blissfully unaware. : )

No worries here sir, have a good day.

December 11th, 2009, 08:28 PM	#16
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,691 Images: 18	Hi Jay............. A bit late to the party as this isn't a usual hangout for me, but thought I'd add my 2 cents worth. I'm a bit puzzled by your friend recommending a Vision 5 AS, what with the camera only weighing in at 8 lbs or so, and having (from appearances) a COG somewhat lower than a gnats kneecap. That being the case, the 5 AS should (and probably does) bounce that 700 back towards the horizontal faster than Captain Kangaroo as soon as the pan bar is let go - unless you've got the tilt drag on the "Emergency Stop" setting. That you haven't mentioned it either means you have the camera pimped out to Mack truck proportions and it thus works with the "perfect Balance" system, or you haven't noticed that tendency to drag you off the ground every time you attempt a backward tilt, which means you know even less about camera support systems than your friend. So, assuming it's the latter, you can save yourself a cool $1,000 (I jest not) by trading that 5 AS in for a 3 AS and have one of the finest support systems on the market for your $2,5000 bucks. That the 3 AS will allow you to set the counterbalance perfectly for your camera will be an added bonus worth more than that saved $1000! Do tell your friend not to give up the day job. CS PS: In the extremely unlikely event that the "Mack Truck" scenario prevails and you have, actually, got the 5 AS perfect balance system functioning correctly, a move to any other head (of any make) would be such a retrograde step you would have every right to kick yourself around the largest city block in town about 30 times. Repeat every time you use the camera and alternative support system. Last edited by Chris Soucy; December 11th, 2009 at 08:45 PM. Reason: +

December 13th, 2009, 12:28 AM	#18
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,691 Images: 18	Well, Jay............... Good, you returned it, at least that was possible. If you want to know more about what I know, take a wander over to the Camera Support forum and spend a while browsing. Oh, and the Articles section has a bit of my work too (not exactly Shakespear, but hey, this is show business). Anything you found in my post that was objectionable probably describes a situation that does and has happened over in that forum, with the users/owners blissfully unaware that there was anything actually wrong. If I offended you, I appologise, it was not intentional, but sometime it can take quite a bit of work to get peoples attention, especially if their knowledge level is minimal (hey, you didn't give me much to work on - come on!). Whatever, hope you and your camera system live long and prosper. Drop into the CSF if you really want an answer to CS questions. CS

December 13th, 2009, 01:43 AM	#19
Jay Kaley New Boot Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: TN USA Posts: 18	If you tried, and looked at it from a first post perspective, you might be able to find something objectionable in there. Maybe not, thats cool too. It doesn't always take "quite a bit of work" to get someones interest, it can be easy too. You could read the thread, possibly even ask a question or two instead of assuming "blissfull unawareness", and maybe even respond to what the thread specifically asked about. Or you could go the way you went, your first post tells me what I don't know, and you're second post telling me how much you know, and never actually answer an 11-day old question, while typing about how hard it is to get someone's attention sometimes. Not sure what you're talking about with all that, and I'm sure you're a tripod/support specialist, but I was just asking about specific tripods for the HM700, and I thought I gave plenty of information on the first page. And not offended at all, just an interesting introduction you have there. And my friend is very good about all of it, he suggested the V5 because I wasn't decided on big cam/small cam at the time, he had the V5 in, so let me take a try with it. The Vinten 3 is a fine tripod, I'm either going with that or a sachtler FSB(6or8), my good friend is arranging for me to try both, and letting me use a nice loaner in the process. I didn't think I needed to write all that, when what I wanted to know was specific tripods folks are using on the HM700. Specifically, that they are using, or have used. Now you're up to speed sufficiently on my situation, and not still blissfully unaware. : ) No worries here sir, have a good day.