Tim's HM700 review link & feedback thread

Tim Dashwood · February 19th, 2009, 10:36 PM

I'll make some time on the weekend to answer all your questions in detail to the best of my ability.

Ben Vallack · February 20th, 2009, 04:14 AM

Any word on how much this will retail at in the UK? In your review you mention $7999 which I guess is probably going to be around £6k/£6.5k in the UK. Thats about the price of the Sony EX3 which has 1/2" chips. What are main selling points of the JVC that the EX3 doesn't have to give it a chance in this price bracket? Presumably a big aspect would be that 35mm lenses on the JVC will give more magnification than on the Sony?

Steve Phillipps · February 20th, 2009, 04:26 AM

Also CCD rather than CMOS. CMOS seems to be the reason why this spate of cameras have appeared with mind-blowing specs and low low prices - there is always a compromise somewhere in there.
Steve

David Heath · February 20th, 2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Vallack

What are main selling points of the JVC that the EX3 doesn't have to give it a chance in this price bracket?

Hand-held ergonomics stands out for me, and I think it may be more like £5,000 than £6,000 on the street. Also native SDHC card recording, and because no adaptor is involved, it seems possible to do full overcrank. Use FCP and it gives native Quicktime files.

Joe Carney · February 20th, 2009, 03:51 PM

I was initially skeptical, but after seeing Tims' footage, even the Engineering sample produced better looking footage than my HD 100. If street prices get it closer to the EX1, it becomes very very tempting. This, plus the PL Lens adapter, plus some matched s16mm primes, combined with the Flash XDR, wow.

Tim, thanks very much for taking the time. I may change my mind and come to NAB this year. Depends on new a job I'm starting.

David Johns · February 20th, 2009, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Vallack

Any word on how much this will retail at in the UK? In your review you mention $7999 which I guess is probably going to be around £6k/£6.5k in the UK. Thats about the price of the Sony EX3 which has 1/2" chips.

I was told by JVC at the Broadcast Video Expo that they expect the HM700 with stock Fujinon 16x lens to sell at around £5,000 on the street; the list price for it with the Canon 16x lens is £6,300 so a bit less than that in the shops.

That does seem to contradict the information given on this forum about the stock lens being the Canon but the JVC people said there'd been a bit of chopping and changing in the last few weeks about this.

Regards
Dave

Chris Hurd · February 20th, 2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by David Johns

That does seem to contradict the information given on this forum about the stock lens being the Canon...

The deal with that is the availability of the Canon lens. JVC will offer one of the Fuji lenses as the bundled kit lens at first, up until the Canon lens begins delivery.

Shaun Roemich · February 20th, 2009, 05:38 PM

Chris, do we have an ANTICIPATED release date for the Canon lens yet?

Craig Yanagi · February 20th, 2009, 09:10 PM

We're looking for the Canon lens to become available in June.

Shaun Roemich · February 20th, 2009, 09:13 PM

WOW, right from "The Man" himself.

Thanks Craig. Any word on whether those of us with HD200's with stock lenses might be able to buy a body only HM700 and purchase the Canon separately later when it becomes available? I own 2 HD200's with 2 16x5.5's and I REALLY don't need another but I'm also interested in picking up a 700 soon after release.

Craig Yanagi · February 20th, 2009, 09:33 PM

We are working on a number of configurations for the GYHM700 to provide the best offerings possible. The offering in the Americas may differ from that in other global markets.

Shaun Roemich · February 20th, 2009, 09:38 PM

Again, appreciate it Craig. Looking forward to "playing" with the new "toy", whenever a configuration that works for me ships.

Joe Carney · February 22nd, 2009, 04:15 PM

Mr Yanagi, could you answer the question about HDSDI output? 10 bit 4:2:2 or 8? Not going to effect buying decision, but would like to know.

Thanks

Randy Johnson · February 22nd, 2009, 07:49 PM

How much is the body only? Will the GY-HD100 lenses work with it?

Chris Hurd · February 22nd, 2009, 08:30 PM

According to my notes, SDI output is 10-bit. Full compatibility with lenses between the HD and HM series. The HM700 will eventually be released as a body-only kit, but to my knowledge its price has not yet been established. If I got any of this wrong, I'm sure Craig will step in and correct me.

February 19th, 2009, 10:36 PM	#16
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	I'll make some time on the weekend to answer all your questions in detail to the best of my ability. __________________ Tim Dashwood

February 20th, 2009, 04:14 AM	#17
Ben Vallack New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 18	Price Any word on how much this will retail at in the UK? In your review you mention $7999 which I guess is probably going to be around £6k/£6.5k in the UK. Thats about the price of the Sony EX3 which has 1/2" chips. What are main selling points of the JVC that the EX3 doesn't have to give it a chance in this price bracket? Presumably a big aspect would be that 35mm lenses on the JVC will give more magnification than on the Sony? __________________ Ben Vallack Filmmaking - Web Design

February 20th, 2009, 03:51 PM	#20
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	I was initially skeptical, but after seeing Tims' footage, even the Engineering sample produced better looking footage than my HD 100. If street prices get it closer to the EX1, it becomes very very tempting. This, plus the PL Lens adapter, plus some matched s16mm primes, combined with the Flash XDR, wow. Tim, thanks very much for taking the time. I may change my mind and come to NAB this year. Depends on new a job I'm starting. __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

February 20th, 2009, 05:38 PM	#23
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Chris, do we have an ANTICIPATED release date for the Canon lens yet? __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

February 20th, 2009, 09:10 PM	#24
Craig Yanagi JVC America Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wayne, New Jersey Posts: 198	We're looking for the Canon lens to become available in June. __________________ Craig Yanagi - National Marketing Manager JVC Professional Video Division, JVCKENWOOD USA Corp.

February 20th, 2009, 04:26 AM	#18
Steve Phillipps Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 2,130	Also CCD rather than CMOS. CMOS seems to be the reason why this spate of cameras have appeared with mind-blowing specs and low low prices - there is always a compromise somewhere in there. Steve

February 20th, 2009, 09:13 PM	#25
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	WOW, right from "The Man" himself. Thanks Craig. Any word on whether those of us with HD200's with stock lenses might be able to buy a body only HM700 and purchase the Canon separately later when it becomes available? I own 2 HD200's with 2 16x5.5's and I REALLY don't need another but I'm also interested in picking up a 700 soon after release. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

February 20th, 2009, 09:33 PM	#26
Craig Yanagi JVC America Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wayne, New Jersey Posts: 198	We are working on a number of configurations for the GYHM700 to provide the best offerings possible. The offering in the Americas may differ from that in other global markets. __________________ Craig Yanagi - National Marketing Manager JVC Professional Video Division, JVCKENWOOD USA Corp.

February 20th, 2009, 09:38 PM	#27
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Again, appreciate it Craig. Looking forward to "playing" with the new "toy", whenever a configuration that works for me ships. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

February 22nd, 2009, 04:15 PM	#28
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Mr Yanagi, could you answer the question about HDSDI output? 10 bit 4:2:2 or 8? Not going to effect buying decision, but would like to know. Thanks __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

February 22nd, 2009, 07:49 PM	#29
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	How much is the body only? Will the GY-HD100 lenses work with it?

February 22nd, 2009, 08:30 PM	#30
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	According to my notes, SDI output is 10-bit. Full compatibility with lenses between the HD and HM series. The HM700 will eventually be released as a body-only kit, but to my knowledge its price has not yet been established. If I got any of this wrong, I'm sure Craig will step in and correct me. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!