New JVC Camcorder at IBC at DVinfo.net

Steve Mullen · September 15th, 2008, 03:21 AM

I just received this in an email from Martin Kravagna at IBC. Translated:

Thunder weather, there stands nevertheless at the JVC conditions of the IBC in Amsterdam already the new entering he model of JVC Profesional, which could go through exactly the same as Top model of the Konsumerliga. It reminds [us] in the form at the first Hp-Boliden of JVC, which JY-HD10, with which JVC introduced a HDV booming at that time with the Semiprofis.

It is a genuine Leichtgewicht Camcorder, which would be to be served also still without Schulterstützen and wrist cramp and is clearly smaller, than for instance the Panasonic beginner HMC151.

Much was over the model advised for in the middle of 2009 not yet to experience - also not whether it will give a abgespeckte Konsumerversion. The 3-Chip-Modell is to remain faithful also for the 720p-Format, which will be safe to find in the 25 and 50p-Variante.

The two SDHC Card modules on the very clearly arranged broadside were extremely remarkable. Thus it is clear that the commitment of JVC might not in the future only lie in the SxS range. 72 Giga Günstigspeicher [affordable memory], perfect a 2-Kanal-Soundabteilung with manual rejection, manual glare and time adjustment at the tail and a abnehmbarter handle including clay/tone department. Much more was not to be recognized. As price JVC indicates - Professional a conception between 3000 and 4000 euros.

Tim Dashwood · September 15th, 2008, 03:51 AM

I wonder if it is being released through the Pro division or consumer or variants for both (as with HD1 and HD10?) I can't quite see if it carries the ProHD logo.
I hope they will have 720p24 in the North American version.

George Kroonder · September 15th, 2008, 04:44 AM

In "English" (according to babel.yahoo.com)

Considerações Steve worthy! Your translation of the Japanese is thus very logical that a whale on rad three. Who corner German to finish in superior part in it? E wasn' ; t it right to more simply give to us to the heart it and not uninterpreted of the translation?

George/

Stuart Campbell · September 15th, 2008, 05:23 AM

Any idea where we can get any more information on this unit? There's very little info in his press release.

Steve Mullen · September 15th, 2008, 06:14 AM

This the only link I can find.

VIDEOAKTIV DIGITAL - die Zeitschrift fr aktive Filmer - IBC-Studie: JVC mit Mini-Profi-Cam

ProHD label seems to likely to mean MPEG-2. At 19Mbps, HDV can certainly go to SD cards just like AVCHD at 17Mbps. I think JVC would be crazy not to offer 24p -- although 25p/30p is proven to be useful when the end product is not film -- which increasingly is the case. 30p nicely goes to 60i Blu-ray and the net.

My real questions are three chips or one? CCD or CMOS?

And, does it include a tape transport?

Stuart Campbell · September 15th, 2008, 07:00 AM

Thanks for the link.

Looks like tapeless acquisition. I can't see any tape carriage, but then guessing specs from an image is always dodgy!

My first questions are;

What is JVC's aim here?
Is supposed to be an EX3 rival or something?
Why no 1080p?
What's the chip(s) and what size is it?
What on earth is it and why?

The heading says that this is an entry level camcorder from JVC Pro which also fits into the best 'Prosumer' bracket. This to me implies that this is indeed a Prosumer camera aimed at both markets to increase sales?

Who knows!? What is certain is that a little speculation is always fun!

Maybe it also has a built in coffee machine! That would be nice.

Chris Hurd · September 15th, 2008, 07:18 AM

Was this on public display in JVC's booth at IBC?

Hans Ledel · September 15th, 2008, 08:01 AM

I know some words in german and this is what I could understand from the german magazine

It is a 3 chip camcorder

720P/25 and 50

I think "72 Giga-Günstigspeicher" means 72GB memory and you can also use SDHC-Card

Manual Aperture

Jeff Kellam · September 15th, 2008, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Mullen

ProHD label seems to likely to mean MPEG-2. At 19Mbps, HDV can certainly go to SD cards just like AVCHD at 17Mbps. I think JVC would be crazy not to offer 24p -- although 25p/30p is proven to be useful when the end product is not film -- which increasingly is the case. 30p nicely goes to 60i Blu-ray and the net.

My real questions are three chips or one? CCD or CMOS?

And, does it include a tape transport?

Wow, thanks Steve!

I have waited 4 years for the successor to my JVC GR-HD1 (and thanks for the manual years ago).

1. The picture in your post says 3 CCD on the side of the camera.

2. Judging from the design of the old HD series (which looks incredibly similar), the area where the tape used to go is now too small for a tape transport mechanism and dosen't appear to have the switch to open the tape door.

3. This is a compact camera compared to the XH-A1 for instance.

It almost looks a little too much like the old camera. Same zoom rocker switch and similar looking controls.

I still can't wait to hear more since I prefer 720P.

Tim Dashwood · September 15th, 2008, 08:47 AM

I just received confirmation that this mystery camera is indeed on public display in the JVC booth at IBC.
There is no official press release but JVC Europe staff are answering questions.

Is anyone at IBC today who could go on a fact-finding mission? I'd like to see some better photos, especially a frame from the top with a hand or those SD cards to determine the size.

Shaun Roemich · September 15th, 2008, 09:34 AM

PURELY speculation but the three position gain switch on the front left leads me to believe this is a pro-sumer/light professional as opposed to a full consumer model. Great find! Interesting stuff coming from JVC these days...

Chris Hurd · September 15th, 2008, 12:17 PM

Moved from JVC Pro Hd to Industry News... at least until we can find out more about this camcorder.

Heath McKnight · September 15th, 2008, 12:33 PM

Wow, I'm having bad HD10 flashbacks! I think if the camera is fully manual and has better controls + 24p, it may actually be a winner.

Heath

Robin Hemerik · September 15th, 2008, 02:21 PM

This camera was on display at IBC. The staff was very mysterious about it though. What I could see:

- 2 XLR inputs
- ND filter
- 3CCD logo on the side, but the spokesman said it would be CMOS (???), 1/3" CCD
- no info about framerates and resolutions, but 720p will be there
- 1 ring on the front (focus and zoom?)

Johnnie Behiri · September 15th, 2008, 05:53 PM

....The staff was very mysterious about it though....because they truly have no more information. The camera has no model number yet.

The camera is showing publicly at IBC but not at the front. You have to ask a JVC representative to show you the camera, or just ask where the refreshments are then look at you right hand side :)

By the way, I am not sure it was mentioned here but JVC is apparently not any more under the Panasonic umbrella. It was sold to Kenwood not so long time ago.

Thanks.

Johnnie

September 15th, 2008, 03:21 AM	#1
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	New JVC Camcorder at IBC I just received this in an email from Martin Kravagna at IBC. Translated: Thunder weather, there stands nevertheless at the JVC conditions of the IBC in Amsterdam already the new entering he model of JVC Profesional, which could go through exactly the same as Top model of the Konsumerliga. It reminds [us] in the form at the first Hp-Boliden of JVC, which JY-HD10, with which JVC introduced a HDV booming at that time with the Semiprofis. It is a genuine Leichtgewicht Camcorder, which would be to be served also still without Schulterstützen and wrist cramp and is clearly smaller, than for instance the Panasonic beginner HMC151. Much was over the model advised for in the middle of 2009 not yet to experience - also not whether it will give a abgespeckte Konsumerversion. The 3-Chip-Modell is to remain faithful also for the 720p-Format, which will be safe to find in the 25 and 50p-Variante. The two SDHC Card modules on the very clearly arranged broadside were extremely remarkable. Thus it is clear that the commitment of JVC might not in the future only lie in the SxS range. 72 Giga Günstigspeicher [affordable memory], perfect a 2-Kanal-Soundabteilung with manual rejection, manual glare and time adjustment at the tail and a abnehmbarter handle including clay/tone department. Much more was not to be recognized. As price JVC indicates - Professional a conception between 3000 and 4000 euros. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c Last edited by Steve Mullen; September 15th, 2008 at 06:18 AM.

September 15th, 2008, 03:51 AM	#2
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	I wonder if it is being released through the Pro division or consumer or variants for both (as with HD1 and HD10?) I can't quite see if it carries the ProHD logo. I hope they will have 720p24 in the North American version. __________________ Tim Dashwood

September 15th, 2008, 06:14 AM	#5
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	This the only link I can find. VIDEOAKTIV DIGITAL - die Zeitschrift fr aktive Filmer - IBC-Studie: JVC mit Mini-Profi-Cam ProHD label seems to likely to mean MPEG-2. At 19Mbps, HDV can certainly go to SD cards just like AVCHD at 17Mbps. I think JVC would be crazy not to offer 24p -- although 25p/30p is proven to be useful when the end product is not film -- which increasingly is the case. 30p nicely goes to 60i Blu-ray and the net. My real questions are three chips or one? CCD or CMOS? And, does it include a tape transport? __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

September 15th, 2008, 07:18 AM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Was this on public display in JVC's booth at IBC? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 15th, 2008, 08:01 AM	#8
Hans Ledel Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 184	I know some words in german and this is what I could understand from the german magazine It is a 3 chip camcorder 720P/25 and 50 I think "72 Giga-Günstigspeicher" means 72GB memory and you can also use SDHC-Card Manual Aperture __________________ Remember, that English is my second language.

September 15th, 2008, 04:44 AM	#3
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	In "English" (according to babel.yahoo.com) Considerações Steve worthy! Your translation of the Japanese is thus very logical that a whale on rad three. Who corner German to finish in superior part in it? E wasn' ; t it right to more simply give to us to the heart it and not uninterpreted of the translation? George/

September 15th, 2008, 05:23 AM	#4
Stuart Campbell Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 400	Any idea where we can get any more information on this unit? There's very little info in his press release.

September 15th, 2008, 07:00 AM	#6
Stuart Campbell Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 400	Thanks for the link. Looks like tapeless acquisition. I can't see any tape carriage, but then guessing specs from an image is always dodgy! My first questions are; What is JVC's aim here? Is supposed to be an EX3 rival or something? Why no 1080p? What's the chip(s) and what size is it? What on earth is it and why? The heading says that this is an entry level camcorder from JVC Pro which also fits into the best 'Prosumer' bracket. This to me implies that this is indeed a Prosumer camera aimed at both markets to increase sales? Who knows!? What is certain is that a little speculation is always fun! Maybe it also has a built in coffee machine! That would be nice.

September 15th, 2008, 08:47 AM	#10
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	I just received confirmation that this mystery camera is indeed on public display in the JVC booth at IBC. There is no official press release but JVC Europe staff are answering questions. Is anyone at IBC today who could go on a fact-finding mission? I'd like to see some better photos, especially a frame from the top with a hand or those SD cards to determine the size. __________________ Tim Dashwood

September 15th, 2008, 09:34 AM	#11
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	PURELY speculation but the three position gain switch on the front left leads me to believe this is a pro-sumer/light professional as opposed to a full consumer model. Great find! Interesting stuff coming from JVC these days... __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

September 15th, 2008, 12:17 PM	#12
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Moved from JVC Pro Hd to Industry News... at least until we can find out more about this camcorder. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 15th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#13
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Wow, I'm having bad HD10 flashbacks! I think if the camera is fully manual and has better controls + 24p, it may actually be a winner. Heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 15th, 2008, 02:21 PM	#14
Robin Hemerik Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 36	... This camera was on display at IBC. The staff was very mysterious about it though. What I could see: - 2 XLR inputs - ND filter - 3CCD logo on the side, but the spokesman said it would be CMOS (???), 1/3" CCD - no info about framerates and resolutions, but 720p will be there - 1 ring on the front (focus and zoom?)

September 15th, 2008, 05:53 PM	#15
Johnnie Behiri Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vienna/Austria Posts: 187	....The staff was very mysterious about it though....because they truly have no more information. The camera has no model number yet. The camera is showing publicly at IBC but not at the front. You have to ask a JVC representative to show you the camera, or just ask where the refreshments are then look at you right hand side :) By the way, I am not sure it was mentioned here but JVC is apparently not any more under the Panasonic umbrella. It was sold to Kenwood not so long time ago. Thanks. Johnnie