Letterbox on JVC-HD110u at DVinfo.net

Antwuan Gabriel · July 23rd, 2007, 10:36 AM

Is there a setting that will allow you to shoot without the letterbox being on the recorded footage that's shot with the JVC-HD110u? Just curious as there may be times when I don't need to have the letterbox look. Thanks for your help!

Peter Lataster · July 23rd, 2007, 01:31 PM

Hi Antwuan,
What exactly do you mean by letterbox? The jvc records in the 16:9 image ratio, the broadcast standard for all hdtv standards. The camera doesn't letterbox the image (thank god). So, if you a need a 3:4 image...

Scott Jaco · July 23rd, 2007, 04:49 PM

The only way to shoot 4:3 is to shoot in Standard mode.

Antwuan Gabriel · July 23rd, 2007, 08:33 PM

what i meant by letterbox is the black boxes on the top and bottom of the screen. I'm aware of the 16:9 aspect ratio, just wanted to know if there was a way to shoot in the 16:9 without the black boxes appearing on the top and bottom of the screen. thanks again

Stephan Ahonen · July 24th, 2007, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Antwuan Gabriel

I'm aware of the 16:9 aspect ratio, just wanted to know if there was a way to shoot in the 16:9 without the black boxes appearing on the top and bottom of the screen. thanks again

You do understand how aspect ratios work, right? What you're asking makes no sense.

Sergio Barbosa · July 24th, 2007, 02:36 AM

The Hd100 does not shoot/record with the black bars on top and bottom. If you're seeing those bars, it's because the display you're using to view the footage, has a 4:3 aspect ratio....or maybe you're doing something wrong in your editing software.

Jemore Santos · July 24th, 2007, 05:17 AM

16x9 is a 1.77 ratio, the only way you can have black bars on top and bottom of the screen in 1.77 is if you shoot 1.85 academy aspect or 2.35 which is liken to anamorphic in standard or 2.40 in super, remember these are aspects.

The HD100 series do not have the option for these. Most if not All HD cameras will shoot a native super (16x9 or 1.77) frame only! In the F900's you can get 4x3, 14x9, 16x9, 1.85 and 2.35 aspect markers, but the HD100 use only 4x3(1.33) and/or 16x9(1.77) aspect markers. Remember these markers are only guides for composition just like ground glasses in film cameras, you are still shooting a full 16x9 frame.

Dennis Tzeng · July 24th, 2007, 11:50 AM

Perhaps he's talking about when he's shooting and the LCD shows black bars? Which I assume is supposed to happen with 24P HDV on the JVC.

Spencer Snygg · July 24th, 2007, 01:16 PM

I think what he may be asking is if the camera allows you to monitor or play out in the squeezed format - like you see when they show the credit sequences of film to tape transfers of some widescreen films that won't fit into 4:3. I know some Sony's and a few other cameras allow this. It permits seeing the whole frame on a standard tv without the image being shrunk. It helps with focus etc..

I know that the GY-HD100U doesn't have this function and I would be surprised if the 110 did.

George Strother · July 24th, 2007, 01:58 PM

I think we need to know what format Antwuan is shooting and what monitor is being viewed.

DV 16:9 will be letterboxed on a 4:3 screen by default.

July 23rd, 2007, 10:36 AM	#1
Antwuan Gabriel New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toledo Ohio Posts: 17	Letterbox on JVC-HD110u Is there a setting that will allow you to shoot without the letterbox being on the recorded footage that's shot with the JVC-HD110u? Just curious as there may be times when I don't need to have the letterbox look. Thanks for your help!

July 23rd, 2007, 01:31 PM	#2
Peter Lataster New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 9	Letterbox Hi Antwuan, What exactly do you mean by letterbox? The jvc records in the 16:9 image ratio, the broadcast standard for all hdtv standards. The camera doesn't letterbox the image (thank god). So, if you a need a 3:4 image...

July 23rd, 2007, 08:33 PM	#4
Antwuan Gabriel New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toledo Ohio Posts: 17	RE:Letterbox what i meant by letterbox is the black boxes on the top and bottom of the screen. I'm aware of the 16:9 aspect ratio, just wanted to know if there was a way to shoot in the 16:9 without the black boxes appearing on the top and bottom of the screen. thanks again

July 24th, 2007, 05:17 AM	#7
Jemore Santos Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo/Sydney Posts: 297	16x9 is a 1.77 ratio, the only way you can have black bars on top and bottom of the screen in 1.77 is if you shoot 1.85 academy aspect or 2.35 which is liken to anamorphic in standard or 2.40 in super, remember these are aspects. The HD100 series do not have the option for these. Most if not All HD cameras will shoot a native super (16x9 or 1.77) frame only! In the F900's you can get 4x3, 14x9, 16x9, 1.85 and 2.35 aspect markers, but the HD100 use only 4x3(1.33) and/or 16x9(1.77) aspect markers. Remember these markers are only guides for composition just like ground glasses in film cameras, you are still shooting a full 16x9 frame. __________________ "eyes through a digital world"

July 23rd, 2007, 04:49 PM	#3
Scott Jaco Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 471	The only way to shoot 4:3 is to shoot in Standard mode.

July 24th, 2007, 02:36 AM	#6
Sergio Barbosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 140	The Hd100 does not shoot/record with the black bars on top and bottom. If you're seeing those bars, it's because the display you're using to view the footage, has a 4:3 aspect ratio....or maybe you're doing something wrong in your editing software.

July 24th, 2007, 11:50 AM	#8
Dennis Tzeng New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 16	Perhaps he's talking about when he's shooting and the LCD shows black bars? Which I assume is supposed to happen with 24P HDV on the JVC.

July 24th, 2007, 01:16 PM	#9
Spencer Snygg New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 19	I think what he may be asking is if the camera allows you to monitor or play out in the squeezed format - like you see when they show the credit sequences of film to tape transfers of some widescreen films that won't fit into 4:3. I know some Sony's and a few other cameras allow this. It permits seeing the whole frame on a standard tv without the image being shrunk. It helps with focus etc.. I know that the GY-HD100U doesn't have this function and I would be surprised if the 110 did.

July 24th, 2007, 01:58 PM	#10
George Strother Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 204	I think we need to know what format Antwuan is shooting and what monitor is being viewed. DV 16:9 will be letterboxed on a 4:3 screen by default.