HD200 Series Scene File Recipes

Brian Duke · May 11th, 2007, 07:10 PM

No I haven't reduced detail because I find that with the mini35 it makes it worse. The detail is already less with the mini35, so reducing it further made it worse in my opinion. Unless you have other thoughts.

Duke

Tim Dashwood · May 11th, 2007, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Duke

No I haven't reduced detail because I find that with the mini35 it makes it worse. The detail is already less with the mini35, so reducing it further made it worse in my opinion. Unless you have other thoughts.

Duke

I was just worried about what the extra edge enhancement might do to the ground glass grain. I haven't conducted any detail tests with the mini35.

If you are watching everything on a HD monitor and it looks good to your taste then don't change anything mid-stride.

I actually sent you an email before you started principal photography suggesting that you not compress the blacks so much, and maybe bring up the master black up in the bleach bypass setting. I'm not sure if you got it.
I was just concerned that you might be cutting down shadow detail unecessarily. You can always easily crush the blacks in post, in a controlled environment.

Are you comfortable shooting WYSIWYG with the bleach bypass scene file? Has your DP had any situations where it wasn't working as well as you'd like?

When in doubt about white clipping, try exposing for the hi-lights and then turn off black compress to obtain some more details in the mid-range.

Matt Norman · May 14th, 2007, 02:02 AM

Hi Tim,

Well done on the scene files. I'm doing some test footage on the 250 for JVC Australia this week to show the camera off a little and will definately put a few of these settings to work.

Well done and thanks for the work you've put in on them.

Hayes Roberts · May 14th, 2007, 09:37 PM

THE MAN HAS COME THROUGH AGAIN!
Thanks Tim...

Carl Martin · May 15th, 2007, 07:41 AM

Thanks Tim. I tried the files, and they are great. Really appreciate it.

Carl

Djee Smit · May 24th, 2007, 02:53 AM

Has anyone tested the 'warm green' and got some material to show how it turns out? We're going to do a videoclip pretty soon and I'm looking for a look simular to the 'Amelie' look.

We get the camera (using a hd111e (we're in Europe) on a friday afternoon and will be shooting saturday early, indoors and outdoors, so there isn't much time to test the different settings

Tim Dashwood · May 24th, 2007, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djee Smit

Has anyone tested the 'warm green' and got some material to show how it turns out? We're going to do a videoclip pretty soon and I'm looking for a look simular to the 'Amelie' look.

We get the camera (using a hd111e (we're in Europe) on a friday afternoon and will be shooting saturday early, indoors and outdoors, so there isn't much time to test the different settings

The fifth sample in this test is the "Warm Green" setting.
Right-Click and Save from this link (38.9MB) to view a transport stream that includes comparison tests of:
1. Superwide
2. DSC CDM28 Calibrated
3. Film Noir
4. Warm
5. Warm Green (Amelié)
6. Bleach Bypass (Saving Private Ryan)
7. Cross-Processed Color Reversal (Three Kings)
8. Film Vert (The Matrix)
9. Close-Up Film Vert
10. Close-Up Cross-Process Color Reversal
11. Close-Up Bleach Bypass
12. Running guy Bleach Bypass

Note: This mpeg2 transport stream has not been re-compressed or colour corrected in any way. Only in-camera DSP was used to achieve the "looks." These tests were shot with the Fujinon 13x3.5mm lens, even though the scene files were designed with the 16x5.5mm.

Djee Smit · May 25th, 2007, 02:07 AM

when I 'save as' I just get a small 8kb .ts file, which I can't play. How can you play this file (on a mac)?

*edit* it works.. thanks, looks great

Sean Adair · May 25th, 2007, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djee Smit

We get the camera (using a hd111e (we're in Europe) on a friday afternoon and will be shooting saturday early, indoors and outdoors, so there isn't much time to test the different settings

Djee, you probably figured this out, but since you posted in the NEW HD200 settings thread, be sure that you get and use the settings for the HD100/110, since the cameras have completely different processing and settings.
The 100 settings are easy to find in the first post of the sticky thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=62835

Djee Smit · May 25th, 2007, 11:05 AM

Thanks for mentioning, because I hadn't even thought about that.

Jonathan Rosenberg · July 15th, 2008, 09:57 AM

Any new Recipes for the 200? Find any 'truer colours'?

I just got a new jvc gyhd200 and im looking for the best colour adjustment I can put on it..

John-Paul Bonadonna · August 20th, 2008, 06:08 PM

I want to thank Tim for these scene files. Thanks to them (and Paolo Ciccone's TrueColor) I can't get enough of shooting with this camera!

The interesting part for me is whether to shoot with the Superwide scene vs. the DSC setting. Obviously, Superwide provides you with the maximum ability to grade the color later in post to find the look you are after... but what if DSC (or Paolo's TrueColor) is the look you are after in about 80% of the material you shoot?!

I guess it is a good problem to have.

Great work!

jpb

Tim Dashwood · August 20th, 2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John-Paul Bonadonna

I want to thank Tim for these scene files. Thanks to them (and Paolo Ciccone's TrueColor) I can't get enough of shooting with this camera!

The interesting part for me is whether to shoot with the Superwide scene vs. the DSC setting. Obviously, Superwide provides you with the maximum ability to grade the color later in post to find the look you are after... but what if DSC (or Paolo's TrueColor) is the look you are after in about 80% of the material you shoot?!

I guess it is a good problem to have.

Great work!

If you want the maximum dynamic range with calibrated colour then just use the DSC setting you like, max out black stretch and lower the knee to 80%

Eugen Oprina · September 1st, 2008, 04:36 PM

Tim,
I have to shoot a commercial in a controlled environment.I am planning to use your Superwide scene. Is there any way to decrease the noise level in post? The master will be in SD 16/9, is this noise as obvious as I see it on my LCD HD monitor?
Thank you for your great work,
Eugen

Stuart Nimmo · September 9th, 2008, 01:16 PM

Tim,

I'm mighty grateful for your considerable efforts. I want to buy your DVD as soon as the Pal version is available. In the meantime, I note that you say setups for a NTSC monitor. How do these settings work out in PAL or the 201e versions? The main difference (apart from DV being the frame rate.

Anyway, thank you again, it's all very much appreciated.

Stuart
Paris, France

May 11th, 2007, 07:10 PM	#16
Brian Duke Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 899	No I haven't reduced detail because I find that with the mini35 it makes it worse. The detail is already less with the mini35, so reducing it further made it worse in my opinion. Unless you have other thoughts. Duke __________________ Visit me and my work at www.artofduke.com

May 14th, 2007, 02:02 AM	#18
Matt Norman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 39	Good job Hi Tim, Well done on the scene files. I'm doing some test footage on the 250 for JVC Australia this week to show the camera off a little and will definately put a few of these settings to work. Well done and thanks for the work you've put in on them.

May 24th, 2007, 02:53 AM	#21
Djee Smit Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Breda, Netherlands Posts: 141	Has anyone tested the 'warm green' and got some material to show how it turns out? We're going to do a videoclip pretty soon and I'm looking for a look simular to the 'Amelie' look. We get the camera (using a hd111e (we're in Europe) on a friday afternoon and will be shooting saturday early, indoors and outdoors, so there isn't much time to test the different settings __________________ www.wanah.nl

May 25th, 2007, 02:07 AM	#23
Djee Smit Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Breda, Netherlands Posts: 141	when I 'save as' I just get a small 8kb .ts file, which I can't play. How can you play this file (on a mac)? edit it works.. thanks, looks great __________________ www.wanah.nl

May 25th, 2007, 11:05 AM	#25
Djee Smit Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Breda, Netherlands Posts: 141	Thanks for mentioning, because I hadn't even thought about that. __________________ www.wanah.nl

May 14th, 2007, 09:37 PM	#19
Hayes Roberts Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Naples FLA Posts: 89	THE MAN HAS COME THROUGH AGAIN! Thanks Tim...

May 15th, 2007, 07:41 AM	#20
Carl Martin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York Posts: 164	Thanks Tim. I tried the files, and they are great. Really appreciate it. Carl

July 15th, 2008, 09:57 AM	#26
Jonathan Rosenberg New Boot Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: TORONTO Posts: 5	Scene Recipes Any new Recipes for the 200? Find any 'truer colours'? I just got a new jvc gyhd200 and im looking for the best colour adjustment I can put on it..

August 20th, 2008, 06:08 PM	#27
John-Paul Bonadonna Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Windsor, ON, Canada Posts: 47	I want to thank Tim for these scene files. Thanks to them (and Paolo Ciccone's TrueColor) I can't get enough of shooting with this camera! The interesting part for me is whether to shoot with the Superwide scene vs. the DSC setting. Obviously, Superwide provides you with the maximum ability to grade the color later in post to find the look you are after... but what if DSC (or Paolo's TrueColor) is the look you are after in about 80% of the material you shoot?! I guess it is a good problem to have. Great work! jpb

September 1st, 2008, 04:36 PM	#29
Eugen Oprina Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bucharest Romania Posts: 221	Tim, I have to shoot a commercial in a controlled environment.I am planning to use your Superwide scene. Is there any way to decrease the noise level in post? The master will be in SD 16/9, is this noise as obvious as I see it on my LCD HD monitor? Thank you for your great work, Eugen

September 9th, 2008, 01:16 PM	#30
Stuart Nimmo Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Paris France Posts: 89	Pal - Ntsc Tim, I'm mighty grateful for your considerable efforts. I want to buy your DVD as soon as the Pal version is available. In the meantime, I note that you say setups for a NTSC monitor. How do these settings work out in PAL or the 201e versions? The main difference (apart from DV being the frame rate. Anyway, thank you again, it's all very much appreciated. Stuart Paris, France