LCD/VF Image flip on HD110/111?

[Florentin Cimpeanu]

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood

[The HZ-CA13U] will work on the HD100/101, but it would be very difficult to operate with the inverted image.
The HD110/111 will invert the image while shooting, but not record that way to tape - requiring a flip/flop in post.
The HD200/250 will invert the image while shooting and on the tape.

Hi everybody,
Please be good with me, it's my first post here and I am a little nervous.
I have this particular problem (issue) with GY-HD111E. Tim said: "The HD110/111 will invert the image while shooting, but not record that way to tape - requiring a flip/flop in post", but I can't find anything in menu to fix this upside-down inversion except that with mirror mode for LCD when LCD is vertically flipped and I need to invert the image upside-down (vertically), not horizontally.
It is something I do wrong? I misunderstood the inversion or the mirror function or just GY-HD111E equipped with the PL Mount converter HZ-CA13U don’t let you to see the image normal oriented vertically at all (not in recordings, just to view)?
If somebody knows if it is possibly to view a normal oriented image with GY-HD111E and HZ-CA13U on LCD, I will be very grateful.
Thanks,
Florentin Cimpeanu

[Joni Partanen]

Florentin, did get the info you needed? Is possible to flip the image in the viewfinder?

[Florentin Cimpeanu]

My opinion is that it's not possible to flip the image in the viewfinder, just "mirror-ing" the image, but I am not 100% sure. That's why I asked for a little help.
And no , I didn't yet get the info I needed.
Off topic: Eugen, your e-mail accounts from here and from yahoo didn't work.

[S. Abdul Jamal]

a simple solution about rotating the monitor :http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=86217

[Florentin Cimpeanu]

Thank you Abdul for remind us the "search" function. A very good answer, indeed.

For others like me who didn't know how to do this operation (flip physically VF), this is from Dustin Cross message:

"I have been shooting a lot of footage with the Redrock lately, and last night I decided to try and flip the monitor inside my VF and it works.

There are two small screws inside that hold the monitor in place. Remove those and slide it out. There is a short ribbon cable connecting it, but is long enough to get the monitor outside the housing.

There are two notches on either side that align the monitor as it slides in the tube. Because of these you can not just turn it upside down and slide it back in.

Use long tweezers or the like to get the monitor in and out. Turn it upside down and put it back in and you'll see one of the notches lines up, but the other doesn't (bottom left).

So I used my Dremel tool and made one new notch and put everything back together and it works.

I think I should have made the existing notch a little bigger instead of making a new notch, because my monitor isn't perfectly square when upside down, has a very slight counter clockwise angle. I am only able to put one of the two screws back in, but it seems secure.

It was a very simple operation and shooting with the Redrock will be much easier now. And I can always rotate it back to normal and put everything back the way it was, with the exception of my new notch, that doesn't hurt anything.

Hope this is useful to someone and if you break your camera don't blame me!"

Seems to be a very simple physically operation (it is not the best way to do this when the camera is in the guaranty period, anyway).

[S. Abdul Jamal]

another way of doing it is by flipping the eyepiece extension tube upside down without messing with any srews .

1-loosen the eyepiece tension ring (big plastic ring)
2-extend the eyepiece all the way out
3-gently pop it out
4-flip it over and put it back in .
5-tighten tension ring .

i

[Tim Brown]

Originally Posted by S. Abdul Jamal

another way of doing it is by flipping the eyepiece extension tube upside down without messing with any srews .

1-loosen the eyepiece tension ring (big plastic ring)
2-extend the eyepiece all the way out
3-gently pop it out
4-flip it over and put it back in .
5-tighten tension ring .

i

And BAM!!!

Good thinking S. Abdul Jamal!

[Tim Dashwood]

I may have been mis-informed about the actual functionality of the HD110 mirror mode.

I just looked at the latest brochure and it says:
LCD mirror mode
When the LCD panel is rotated towards the subject, mirror mode can
be selected to display an image on the LCD screen, which, in terms of
left and right, is exactly the same as the image in the eyepiece
viewfinder. This is a very useful feature for TV news reporters when
talking to camera on a self-operated video reporting system. Normal or
Mirror mode is selected in the menu.


Wasn't this feature always in the HD100, just in the ADVANCED menu?

I'm quite confused now because I had the distinct impression that the HD110 was compatible with the HZ-CA13U and other lens adapters for right-side-up viewing on the LCD, but not writing to tape (like the HD200/250.)

My apologies... I will explore this a little more.

[S. Abdul Jamal]

don't worry TIM you're still the man .
im waiting for your review on the hz-ca13u before i purchase one , when will it be ?

[Tim Dashwood]

Originally Posted by S. Abdul Jamal

don't worry TIM you're still the man .
im waiting for your review on the hz-ca13u before i purchase one , when will it be ?

It is already written. The full review will be posted on dvinfo after the print run (Videography.)

Maybe I'll post some point-form highlights in the HZ-CA13U thread this week.
I think I'll be adding one to my kit ASAP. I'm looking into PL conversions of Russian glass right now.

[Florentin Cimpeanu]

Tim, you will be always a professional, a man from we can learn anytime. It was not in my intention to say anything wrong about you. My apologies.
I think it is better now, because we have a new topic about GY-HD110/111 with the adapter only and how we can fix the inversion of the image with HZ-CA 13, which is a very good adapter indeed.
We are waiting for the full review.

[Alan Ortiz]

Originally Posted by S. Abdul Jamal

another way of doing it is by flipping the eyepiece extension tube upside down without messing with any srews .

1-loosen the eyepiece tension ring (big plastic ring)
2-extend the eyepiece all the way out
3-gently pop it out
4-flip it over and put it back in .
5-tighten tension ring .

i

How are you "gently" popping it out? I got up to step two but I cant seem to pull it out without excessive force. How hard did you have to pull? I really want to try this with my newly arrived Brevis 35 but am afraid to break the viewfinder- I shoot with it 70% of the time.

[Ted Ramasola]

Alan Ortiz
Once youre done with step 2,
Slowly part the VF holder at the seams with your nail, theyre not held together by screws, they just snap in place.
I suggest you part the seam facing inside.


S. Abdul Jamal
Your the MANN!!! This is a better way!
Thanks for sharing this info.

Ted

[Eugen Oprina]

Florentin,
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[Alan Ortiz]

Originally Posted by Ted Ramasola

Alan Ortiz
Once youre done with step 2,
Slowly part the VF holder at the seams with your nail, theyre not held together by screws, they just snap in place.
I suggest you part the seam facing inside.


S. Abdul Jamal
Your the MANN!!! This is a better way!
Thanks for sharing this info.

Ted

Ted, Abdul, you guys rock! This changes everything! Thanks a million!

Oh yeah, and by the way, this is THE way to shoot adapter footage. Stable, sharp, images. I am falling in love with my HD100 all over again!

-Alan