New Overcranked Slow-motion Short Movie (HD201E) at DVinfo.net

Tomasz Ostrowski · February 14th, 2007, 01:09 AM

Hey Guys !
Its my first short movie with great slow-motion effect (720p60P)
and 1/120 shutter (with JVC HD201E)
In my opinion its very similar like HVX200 result(or better;)
Look it yourself and comment please.
Here is a link :
http://webprod7.megashares.com/index...eEdius2007.wmv

Tyson Perkins · February 14th, 2007, 01:32 AM

Its great - except i can see the same kind of noise issues in there that im having.

Brian Duke · February 14th, 2007, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyson Perkins

Its great - except i can see the same kind of noise issues in there that im having.

Would you say there is more noise than the HD100?

Tyson Perkins · February 14th, 2007, 05:04 AM

I have not used the 100 and so cannot make the comparison - ask Phil he seems to have more experience - but can you see the noise in those images which he has put out - they do a fair job in capturing the high noise levels i think - although im getting it a much better lit and controlled environment

Stephan Ahonen · February 15th, 2007, 02:07 AM

How much gain is that in the fire scene where we're seeing all that noise?

Tomasz Ostrowski · February 15th, 2007, 03:35 AM

Hello Again
In the first I wolud like to explain that the fire scenes was expediently filtered in my PP2. I have boosted gain in PP2 too. The really HD201 gain was set to 12dB, but it was very, very dark around (the fire was the only one source of light). Yes, I know noise that was create in fire scenes is terrible, but i have concentrated note on the slow-motion effect.
If You want, I can show some examples of oryginal fire scenes.

Ben Lynn · February 15th, 2007, 07:14 AM

Tomasz,

Nice piece. It looks like a fun day in the snow! I thought the slo-mo turned out good.

What was that music track? I've heard that before and I have no idea who mixed it.

Ben

Stephan Ahonen · February 15th, 2007, 07:59 AM

12dB's going to give you some pretty nasty noise even without boosting anything in post. I never take anything over 6 dB myself, even on things like 2/3" SD cameras that naturally have much lower noise levels than a 1/3" HD camera.

I see a lot of HDV artifacting in those fire scenes too, probably the result of noise + lots of color correction in post.

Bill Ravens · February 15th, 2007, 08:37 AM

I've shot as high as 9dB of gain with my HD110. I was pretty surprised at the good quality I got, not much discernible noise, at all.

Tomasz Ostrowski · February 15th, 2007, 09:59 AM

Ben
The name of the music track is "Mike Oldfield - Let there be light (Hardfloor remix)". Thanks for your opinion.

Ben Lynn · February 15th, 2007, 11:07 AM

Thanks Tomasz,

I'm a long time listener of Digitally Imported and I've heard that on there several times but never noticed who it was. Good stuff.

Ben

Jemore Santos · February 16th, 2007, 12:54 AM

cant see it

February 14th, 2007, 01:09 AM	#1
Tomasz Ostrowski Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 65	New Overcranked Slow-motion Short Movie (HD201E) Hey Guys ! Its my first short movie with great slow-motion effect (720p60P) and 1/120 shutter (with JVC HD201E) In my opinion its very similar like HVX200 result(or better;) Look it yourself and comment please. Here is a link : http://webprod7.megashares.com/index...eEdius2007.wmv

February 16th, 2007, 12:54 AM	#12
Jemore Santos Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo/Sydney Posts: 297	cant see it __________________ "eyes through a digital world"

February 14th, 2007, 01:32 AM	#2
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	Its great - except i can see the same kind of noise issues in there that im having.

February 14th, 2007, 05:04 AM	#4
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	I have not used the 100 and so cannot make the comparison - ask Phil he seems to have more experience - but can you see the noise in those images which he has put out - they do a fair job in capturing the high noise levels i think - although im getting it a much better lit and controlled environment

February 15th, 2007, 02:07 AM	#5
Stephan Ahonen Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 512	How much gain is that in the fire scene where we're seeing all that noise?

February 15th, 2007, 03:35 AM	#6
Tomasz Ostrowski Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 65	Hello Again In the first I wolud like to explain that the fire scenes was expediently filtered in my PP2. I have boosted gain in PP2 too. The really HD201 gain was set to 12dB, but it was very, very dark around (the fire was the only one source of light). Yes, I know noise that was create in fire scenes is terrible, but i have concentrated note on the slow-motion effect. If You want, I can show some examples of oryginal fire scenes.

February 15th, 2007, 07:14 AM	#7
Ben Lynn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 636	Tomasz, Nice piece. It looks like a fun day in the snow! I thought the slo-mo turned out good. What was that music track? I've heard that before and I have no idea who mixed it. Ben

February 15th, 2007, 07:59 AM	#8
Stephan Ahonen Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 512	12dB's going to give you some pretty nasty noise even without boosting anything in post. I never take anything over 6 dB myself, even on things like 2/3" SD cameras that naturally have much lower noise levels than a 1/3" HD camera. I see a lot of HDV artifacting in those fire scenes too, probably the result of noise + lots of color correction in post.

February 15th, 2007, 08:37 AM	#9
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	I've shot as high as 9dB of gain with my HD110. I was pretty surprised at the good quality I got, not much discernible noise, at all.

February 15th, 2007, 09:59 AM	#10
Tomasz Ostrowski Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 65	Ben The name of the music track is "Mike Oldfield - Let there be light (Hardfloor remix)". Thanks for your opinion.

February 15th, 2007, 11:07 AM	#11
Ben Lynn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 636	Thanks Tomasz, I'm a long time listener of Digitally Imported and I've heard that on there several times but never noticed who it was. Good stuff. Ben