How to edit HD from a JVC? at DVinfo.net

Tyson Perkins · November 25th, 2006, 04:52 AM

I know this is a 'newbie' questions except that is what I am in terms of the HD workflow, a 'newbie'. I was wondering if anyone could give me a step-by-step guide to importing HD footage from either HD200 or 250 into final cut pro, including the supported frame rates i.e. 24p 25p 30p 60p etc. Do I need a deck? Do I need specific software? Specific Cords? Are there any existing guides?

Im editing on a quad core Mac Pro with Final Cut Studio, and i was need some guidance before I bought into the camera.

Sorry for the ridiculous question but you have to start somewhere.

Steve Benner · November 25th, 2006, 07:11 AM

If you are using Final Cut Pro 5.1.2, 24, 25, and 30p all have easy presets and can be captured straight from the camera. There is no direct support for 60P yet. The only cord you need is a 6-6 pin Firewire 400 cable.

For 60P, you have to download DVHSCap and MPEG Streamclip. With DVHSCap, you can capture a raw .m2t from the camera and then in MPEG Streamclip it can be converted to the editing codec of your choice. Once done, in FCP, you can create a squence with an editing timebase of 59.94 and it should work fine until Apple releases an update for direct support.

Having said all of this, if you use your camera straight as a capture deck, you will wear the heads out quicker. JVC sells a deck, the BR-HD50. It is pricy though:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search
You could also buy a DR-HD100:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search
which captures directly into the editing codec of your choice, and currently 30P goes right into FCP. 24P is coming very soon.

Justin Ferar · November 25th, 2006, 02:55 PM

How well does MPEG streamclip convert to say- DVC Pro HD? or is this not an option?

Does this workflow maintain timecode?

I ask because I'd like to be able to use the M2T files right off the firestore HD100 and convert to DVC Pro HD for editing with Kona LH. This would be an awsome workflow because I wouldn't have to purchase the JVC deck and could avoid shooting on tape altogether.

I checked out the MPEG Streamclip website and couldn't find any answers as their website is not too helpful.

George Strother · November 25th, 2006, 04:35 PM

Justin

Mpegsteamclip does export QT Apple DVC Pro HD in various sizes and rates. On my dual 2.0 G5, it's about realtime.

Justin Ferar · November 25th, 2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by George Strother

Justin

Mpegsteamclip does export QT Apple DVC Pro HD in various sizes and rates. On my dual 2.0 G5, it's about realtime.

Does it keep the timecode intact?

Fernando Orozco · November 25th, 2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin Ferar

Does it keep the timecode intact?

Not it doesn't, I use it in my system (QC G5 2.5 FCS 5.0) DVHSCap to capture in 24p and them transcode to Uncompressed 10-bit for editing, I think you need to organize your material capturing each clip that you are gonna use.

Steve Mullen · November 25th, 2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyson Perkins

Sorry for the ridiculous question but you have to start somewhere.

You might start with a good book. :)

Bill Ravens · November 26th, 2006, 08:14 AM

i can highly recommend steve mullen's book about HDV and the JVC HD100. I bought it and it's proven invaluable.

Simon Duncan · November 26th, 2006, 02:03 PM

Is there a planned update to this book for the HD200 and 250?

Tyson Perkins · November 26th, 2006, 03:02 PM

If there was id be very interested in buying it.

November 25th, 2006, 04:52 AM	#1
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	How to edit HD from a JVC? I know this is a 'newbie' questions except that is what I am in terms of the HD workflow, a 'newbie'. I was wondering if anyone could give me a step-by-step guide to importing HD footage from either HD200 or 250 into final cut pro, including the supported frame rates i.e. 24p 25p 30p 60p etc. Do I need a deck? Do I need specific software? Specific Cords? Are there any existing guides? Im editing on a quad core Mac Pro with Final Cut Studio, and i was need some guidance before I bought into the camera. Sorry for the ridiculous question but you have to start somewhere.

November 26th, 2006, 02:03 PM	#9
Simon Duncan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Angers, France Posts: 181	Steve Mullen Book Is there a planned update to this book for the HD200 and 250?

November 25th, 2006, 07:11 AM	#2
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	If you are using Final Cut Pro 5.1.2, 24, 25, and 30p all have easy presets and can be captured straight from the camera. There is no direct support for 60P yet. The only cord you need is a 6-6 pin Firewire 400 cable. For 60P, you have to download DVHSCap and MPEG Streamclip. With DVHSCap, you can capture a raw .m2t from the camera and then in MPEG Streamclip it can be converted to the editing codec of your choice. Once done, in FCP, you can create a squence with an editing timebase of 59.94 and it should work fine until Apple releases an update for direct support. Having said all of this, if you use your camera straight as a capture deck, you will wear the heads out quicker. JVC sells a deck, the BR-HD50. It is pricy though: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search You could also buy a DR-HD100: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search which captures directly into the editing codec of your choice, and currently 30P goes right into FCP. 24P is coming very soon.

November 25th, 2006, 02:55 PM	#3
Justin Ferar Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Larkspur, CA Posts: 378	How well does MPEG streamclip convert to say- DVC Pro HD? or is this not an option? Does this workflow maintain timecode? I ask because I'd like to be able to use the M2T files right off the firestore HD100 and convert to DVC Pro HD for editing with Kona LH. This would be an awsome workflow because I wouldn't have to purchase the JVC deck and could avoid shooting on tape altogether. I checked out the MPEG Streamclip website and couldn't find any answers as their website is not too helpful.

November 25th, 2006, 04:35 PM	#4
George Strother Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 204	Justin Mpegsteamclip does export QT Apple DVC Pro HD in various sizes and rates. On my dual 2.0 G5, it's about realtime.

November 26th, 2006, 08:14 AM	#8
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	i can highly recommend steve mullen's book about HDV and the JVC HD100. I bought it and it's proven invaluable.

November 26th, 2006, 03:02 PM	#10
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	If there was id be very interested in buying it.