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Werner Wesp · November 8th, 2006, 07:26 AM

Is anyone using a steadycam or glidecam solution with this camcorder? I was looking at the available options, but lots of them are for less heavier camcorders. I use the GY-HD101 with stock lens and IDX batteries (1 or 2 small ones) - you can see pictures on my site. In this setup the camcorder is about 5 kg / 10 lb. (Picture: http://users.telenet.be/wespproductions/wesp-kiezen.htm)

The heavier steadicams feature LCD screens, but they'll be useless since I'm shooting in HD (besides, there already is an LCD on the cam... then that gets used for once)...

Fernando Hermoso · November 8th, 2006, 03:01 PM

hello Werner.
I work with one glidecam 4000 and smoth to shotter, with a HD 100E, ligths swit of LED, batteries idx of 90 WT. and Pro-X of 130 WT. In addition I take to a Focus FS4 pro HD, and the set still exceeds tension to him to the wharves yet to take something of more weight. it is a cheap and economic equipment and works very well for my.
greetings.

Charles Papert · November 8th, 2006, 05:25 PM

The GC400 with Smooth Shooter is an affordable option. Sachtler has a few decent rigs in your part of the world also.

The best rig you can get for that weight of camera is the Tiffen Flyer.
The HD101 outputs composite SD video so you can feed any of the rigs that use monitors. The advantage of a rig-mounted LCD is that you have better peripheral vision of your surroundings, including where your feet are going, and also you can spin the rig 90 degrees or more to the right without losing sight of the LCD on the camera. The fact that you are looking at an SD image rather than HD makes no difference as you are focusing your attention on framing, not the subtleties of resolution.

Greg Corke · November 8th, 2006, 05:54 PM

Hi Werner,

I use the flyer + cavision Matt box, 1 IDX on camera, and one sometimes two on the bottom end of the post for balancing. Also have the firestore rigged up most of the time. I can't reccomend this rig enough. Works really well with HD 100 and as Charles said you will only need the monitor for framing as most stuff will be wide on a rig anyhow. However, if I do need crucial focus the shot is generaly more static so I re-balance to allow for the cam monitor and focus assist.
I was looking at several options before I went for the flyer and although it was more expensive I'm glad I chose this set up as it is far superior imo to the other rigs in its weight class. Just two things to remember, with the rig set up as above you are going to be approaching the weight limit, second the heavier you fly generally the better the operation as this creates more inertia just don't exceed the limit and I guess you will be okay.

Regards Greg

Shawn Anderson · November 9th, 2006, 02:08 AM

Flying an HD100U/A with the DH-100-80 HHD recorder, 2 Audio technica U101 Wirlesses, cavision mattebox and rails and a dionic 180 Battery Alot of weight but it works great.. Have the cable routed internally and balanced with an Anton Bauer brick on the bottom. Love the rig, not a steadicam but at 1/10 the price, whos complaining!

Phil Balsdon · November 9th, 2006, 03:35 AM

I've been using the Steadicam Flyer with the HD101E very successfully.
I have an article on my web site using the Flyer with HD101E, DR HD100 hard drive, P+S Technik Mini 35 adaptor and BFD wireless follow focus.
http://www.steadi-onfilms.com.au/steadicam_flyer.html
I've also just finished shooting a series of concerts using the HD101E in it's standard format on the Flyer. The Flyer is for me the perfect rig for this kind of work.

Jemore Santos · November 9th, 2006, 05:40 AM

Nice rig Phil, my DP Richard Nammora is also a Steadicam Op on 16mm. Are you holding steadicam workshops? I would like to learn a bit with them, I have a HD100u camera but I'm based in Sydney for a while.

Werner Wesp · November 10th, 2006, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fernando Hermoso

hello Werner.
I work with one glidecam 4000 and smoth to shotter, with a HD 100E, ligths swit of LED, batteries idx of 90 WT. and Pro-X of 130 WT. In addition I take to a Focus FS4 pro HD, and the set still exceeds tension to him to the wharves yet to take something of more weight. it is a cheap and economic equipment and works very well for my.
greetings.

Hey Fernando, Do you have a picture of your setup perhaps?

Furthermore, I have the base-plate of my Libec tripod screwed to the bottom of my JVC GY-HD101 with the 4 support screws also. It would be nice if I didn't need to remove it for use with a glidecam. Does anyone know of a quick-release-system supporting the standard Libec plates, or should I switch to the Sony VCT-014 standard broadcast quick-release tripod adapter?

Werner Wesp · November 16th, 2006, 09:12 AM

Does anyone have some experience with the ABA clip and go?

November 8th, 2006, 07:26 AM	#1
Werner Wesp Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 497	Steadicam / Glidecam Is anyone using a steadycam or glidecam solution with this camcorder? I was looking at the available options, but lots of them are for less heavier camcorders. I use the GY-HD101 with stock lens and IDX batteries (1 or 2 small ones) - you can see pictures on my site. In this setup the camcorder is about 5 kg / 10 lb. (Picture: http://users.telenet.be/wespproductions/wesp-kiezen.htm) The heavier steadicams feature LCD screens, but they'll be useless since I'm shooting in HD (besides, there already is an LCD on the cam... then that gets used for once)... __________________ High-Definition Video Consultant - CEO of Delimex NV - http://www.delimex.be gear of choice : http://www.wespgear.com Last edited by Werner Wesp; November 8th, 2006 at 09:03 AM.

November 8th, 2006, 03:01 PM	#2
Fernando Hermoso New Boot Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cordoba-Spain- Posts: 24	glidecam hello Werner. I work with one glidecam 4000 and smoth to shotter, with a HD 100E, ligths swit of LED, batteries idx of 90 WT. and Pro-X of 130 WT. In addition I take to a Focus FS4 pro HD, and the set still exceeds tension to him to the wharves yet to take something of more weight. it is a cheap and economic equipment and works very well for my. greetings.

November 8th, 2006, 05:25 PM	#3
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	The GC400 with Smooth Shooter is an affordable option. Sachtler has a few decent rigs in your part of the world also. The best rig you can get for that weight of camera is the Tiffen Flyer. The HD101 outputs composite SD video so you can feed any of the rigs that use monitors. The advantage of a rig-mounted LCD is that you have better peripheral vision of your surroundings, including where your feet are going, and also you can spin the rig 90 degrees or more to the right without losing sight of the LCD on the camera. The fact that you are looking at an SD image rather than HD makes no difference as you are focusing your attention on framing, not the subtleties of resolution. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

November 9th, 2006, 02:08 AM	#5
Shawn Anderson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 18	Glidecam V-16 HD100U/A Flying an HD100U/A with the DH-100-80 HHD recorder, 2 Audio technica U101 Wirlesses, cavision mattebox and rails and a dionic 180 Battery Alot of weight but it works great.. Have the cable routed internally and balanced with an Anton Bauer brick on the bottom. Love the rig, not a steadicam but at 1/10 the price, whos complaining!

November 9th, 2006, 03:35 AM	#6
Phil Balsdon Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 91	Steadicam Flyer & HD101E I've been using the Steadicam Flyer with the HD101E very successfully. I have an article on my web site using the Flyer with HD101E, DR HD100 hard drive, P+S Technik Mini 35 adaptor and BFD wireless follow focus. http://www.steadi-onfilms.com.au/steadicam_flyer.html I've also just finished shooting a series of concerts using the HD101E in it's standard format on the Flyer. The Flyer is for me the perfect rig for this kind of work.

November 8th, 2006, 05:54 PM	#4
Greg Corke Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 245	Hi Werner, I use the flyer + cavision Matt box, 1 IDX on camera, and one sometimes two on the bottom end of the post for balancing. Also have the firestore rigged up most of the time. I can't reccomend this rig enough. Works really well with HD 100 and as Charles said you will only need the monitor for framing as most stuff will be wide on a rig anyhow. However, if I do need crucial focus the shot is generaly more static so I re-balance to allow for the cam monitor and focus assist. I was looking at several options before I went for the flyer and although it was more expensive I'm glad I chose this set up as it is far superior imo to the other rigs in its weight class. Just two things to remember, with the rig set up as above you are going to be approaching the weight limit, second the heavier you fly generally the better the operation as this creates more inertia just don't exceed the limit and I guess you will be okay. Regards Greg

November 9th, 2006, 05:40 AM	#7
Jemore Santos Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo/Sydney Posts: 297	Nice rig Phil, my DP Richard Nammora is also a Steadicam Op on 16mm. Are you holding steadicam workshops? I would like to learn a bit with them, I have a HD100u camera but I'm based in Sydney for a while. __________________ "eyes through a digital world"

November 16th, 2006, 09:12 AM	#9
Werner Wesp Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 497	Does anyone have some experience with the ABA clip and go? __________________ High-Definition Video Consultant - CEO of Delimex NV - http://www.delimex.be gear of choice : http://www.wespgear.com