SUPER-ENCODER for the HD100 at DVinfo.net

Miltos Pilalitos · October 18th, 2006, 06:10 AM

I would like to know if it will be possible to upgrade the HD100's firmware with the new superencoder.

If it is technicaly possible i wouldn't mind paying a logical amount of money to JVC for the upgrade.

Although i love the HD100 and have shot some fantastic stuff with it, i always considered the motion trails that the encoder generates some times as an encoder bug and as something that shouldn't be there.

What do you guys think? Would you pay for the superencoder in your HD100?

Drew Curran · October 18th, 2006, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Miltos Pilalitos

Would you pay for the superencoder in your HD100?

Oh yes.

I think Mr JVC would rather you spend the money on a brand new HD200/250 though.

Andrew

Miltos Pilalitos · October 18th, 2006, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew Curran

Oh yes.

I think Mr JVC would rather you spend the money on a brand new HD200/250 though.

Andrew

Well, i don't think that the majority of HD100 owners will pay second time in less than a year for a new GY-HDxxx camera. Besides, with the HD-2xx you get more than the super-encoder...

Miltos

Steven Thomas · October 18th, 2006, 08:49 AM

This would be great..
We could only hope it was possible and JVC was willing.
I'm assuming that there might be new hardware that would limit this possibility.

Mark Silva · October 18th, 2006, 10:05 AM

Motion Trails?

Drew Curran · October 18th, 2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Miltos Pilalitos

Well, i don't think that the majority of HD100 owners will pay second time in less than a year for a new GY-HDxxx camera. Besides, with the HD-2xx you get more than the super-encoder...

Miltos

JVC are following Panasonics path with the DVX100 (DVX100A and DVX100B) by issuing updated HD100 series (ie HD111) rather than providing us a hardware/software upgrade for our cameras. Something like the HD121 will be next.

I'm guessing

Andrew

Miltos Pilalitos · October 18th, 2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew Curran

JVC are following Panasonics path with the DVX100 (DVX100A and DVX100B)

I hope JVC will find their own path to follow!

Panos Bournias · October 18th, 2006, 06:48 PM

Hi Misto, I see your very Greek name and I am wondering are you living in Greece? I am From Greece too but I live the last 15 years in Bali Indonesia. By the way, I asked the JVC representative in Jakarta about new upgrades and he said that they have no news and no instructions. Lets wait and see.

Jack Walker · October 18th, 2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Miltos Pilalitos

I would like to know if it will be possible to upgrade the HD100's firmware with the new superencoder.HD100?

I believe its a new piece of hardware with an entirely different encoding chip.

Originally the HD200 was suppose to have the same body as the 100... however, since the 200 will also take the new body of the 250, its possible the internal workings of the 200 won't even fit in the 100 body.

Miltos Pilalitos · October 18th, 2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Panos Bournias

Hi Milto, I see your very Greek name and I am wondering are you living in Greece? I am From Greece too but I live the last 15 years in Bali Indonesia. By the way, I asked the JVC representative in Jakarta about new upgrades and he said that they have no news and no instructions. Lets wait and see.

Yeap, living and working in Greece!

I cross my fingers hoping for some good news on the subject!

Milas Elinika?

Miltos Pilalitos · October 18th, 2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Walker

I believe its a new piece of hardware with an entirely different encoding chip.

Originally the HD200 was suppose to have the same body as the 100... however, since the 200 will also take the new body of the 250, its possible the internal workings of the 200 won't even fit in the 100 body.

Well, if the encoding is done on a special encoding chip maybe it is possible to replace it or rewrite it!

I would not even give it a second thought if i could have such an upgrade by JVC for 400-500 euros.

Maybe Carl Hicks could enlighten us on the subject...

Carl Hicks · October 18th, 2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Walker

I believe its a new piece of hardware with an entirely different encoding chip.

Originally the HD200 was suppose to have the same body as the 100... however, since the 200 will also take the new body of the 250, its possible the internal workings of the 200 won't even fit in the 100 body.

Jack hit the nail on the head! There are huge differences in the hardware and circuitry of the new 200 series cameras versus the 100 series cameras. It's not possible to upgrade.

The 100 series cameras deliver amazing picture quality and features at their price range. The 200 series will be a significant step up in terms of performance, features, and price.

Miltos Pilalitos · October 18th, 2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Hicks

It's not possible to upgrade.

NOOOoooOOoooOooooo!!!!!

Oh well... We'll just have to learn how to live with it i guess. :-)

Joe Carney · October 18th, 2006, 10:14 PM

I knew when I purchased that JVC would soon announce new products. My primary interest is in 24p, so I'm not worrying about the new 2XX products.
I'm just hoping they keep a 100 version and lower the price. Lots of Low Budget/Independent Movie makers out there who would fall in love with this camera at the right price point.

Mark Silva · October 19th, 2006, 10:14 AM

I fell in love because it WAS the right price point.

$ 5,000 USD for full resolution 720 line progressive scan / no subsampling / 24 frame imaging is a remarkable value to this day.

There will be plenty of used ones on ebay for less money next year I'm sure.

October 18th, 2006, 06:10 AM	#1
Miltos Pilalitos Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Piraeus, Greece Posts: 53	SUPER-ENCODER for the HD100 I would like to know if it will be possible to upgrade the HD100's firmware with the new superencoder. If it is technicaly possible i wouldn't mind paying a logical amount of money to JVC for the upgrade. Although i love the HD100 and have shot some fantastic stuff with it, i always considered the motion trails that the encoder generates some times as an encoder bug and as something that shouldn't be there. What do you guys think? Would you pay for the superencoder in your HD100?

October 18th, 2006, 06:48 PM	#8
Panos Bournias Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 109	For Miltos Hi Misto, I see your very Greek name and I am wondering are you living in Greece? I am From Greece too but I live the last 15 years in Bali Indonesia. By the way, I asked the JVC representative in Jakarta about new upgrades and he said that they have no news and no instructions. Lets wait and see.

October 18th, 2006, 10:14 PM	#14
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	I knew when I purchased that JVC would soon announce new products. My primary interest is in 24p, so I'm not worrying about the new 2XX products. I'm just hoping they keep a 100 version and lower the price. Lots of Low Budget/Independent Movie makers out there who would fall in love with this camera at the right price point. __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

October 18th, 2006, 08:49 AM	#4
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	This would be great.. We could only hope it was possible and JVC was willing. I'm assuming that there might be new hardware that would limit this possibility.

October 18th, 2006, 10:05 AM	#5
Mark Silva Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 431	Motion Trails?

October 19th, 2006, 10:14 AM	#15
Mark Silva Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 431	I fell in love because it WAS the right price point. $ 5,000 USD for full resolution 720 line progressive scan / no subsampling / 24 frame imaging is a remarkable value to this day. There will be plenty of used ones on ebay for less money next year I'm sure.