Comparing HD-200 and HD-250

[Carl Hicks]

Originally Posted by Floris van Eck

Thanks for your anwers Carl! I am in the market for a new camera this year. And the HD200 is definately an option for me. Some questions left.

You mentioned that the HD200 will come with either a stock lens or without a lens so we can choose one yourselves. That would be great, but I suppose the $8000 price is for the bundle and the body-only would be cheaper? If so, it would truly show great flexibility and customer service from JVC!

The HD200 is the same size as the HD250. How does it compare to the HD110. Is it slightly larger/heavier or is it much bigger?

Finally. With the PAL model, I will have 720p/25 and 720p/50. That would mean I can shoot slow-motion sequences right?

Regarding price: Any pricing you may have seen thus far is preliminary. Final pricing has not been released yet, but should be very soon.

Regarding size: The 200/250 series cameras will be about 4 inches longer than the 100/110 series. This is comparing the 100/110 series body WITHOUT an after-market battery adaptor to a 200/250 series WITH the Anton Bauer adaptor. So if you compared both cameras, with AB battery adaptor, the difference would be maybe 2 inches or so.

Regarding weight: The 200/250 series camera head will be about 1 lb. heavier than the 100/110 series.

Regarding Frame Rates: Both the NTSC and PAL models will be able to shoot frame rates of 24,25,30,50, and 60 in the HD mode. So yes, you could "overcrank" by shooting at 50 fps and slow it down to 25 fps in post for example.

Remember that in the HD world, there is no "NTSC" or "PAL". HD standards are international. NTSC or PAL only applies to SD modes.

Regards, Carl

[Paul Jefferies]

I think its great that people from inside the industry like Carl look at the posts and give responses - it helps to reinforce the fact that JVC are making a real effort to get the whole HDpro format right. However, as his replies are spread all over the various threads, is it time to start a seperate thread, called "Ask Carl" - where anyone who has a question like these can post, and Carl could give his responses, all in one place? Maybe once a week or something?

[Michael Maier]

WOW! Sorry for trying to help. I was fully ignored big time!

[David Ziegelheim]

Any chance of JVC adding an HDMI output. With the inexpensive BlackMagic HDMI card, it would provide a relatively inexpensive way (compared to HD-SDI) to get and capture uncompressed 4:2:2 video and uncompressed audio.

[Jemore Santos]

Carl how much do the PL mount adapters cost? are they in the market?

[Adam Letch]

Heres a link to videoguys in Aust, with the price for the CCU as well, they supply theirs with the standard Fujinon Lens, but why I don't know, they supply the BN-V428 battery, which is a mere 2800mAh. I don't have the hd100 in my hands at the moment, is that the stock battery, or is it the 3800mAh version the BN-V438U?
Anyways, here it is.

http://www.videoguys.com.au/scripts/...idcategory=321

[Dave Beaty]

We are placing an order for 2 of the HD250's very soon. We are also going to use the DR-HD100 HDR now that we can use FCPro with the files.

My only concern is that with the Anton battery, the BNC connector section and the HDR on the back, this camera will be 3 feet long!

I hope I can balance it. At least it looks like the tripod plate now mounts on 2 points, is that correct?

Dave Beaty

[Carl Hicks]

Originally Posted by Dave Beaty

We are placing an order for 2 of the HD250's very soon. We are also going to use the DR-HD100 HDR now that we can use FCPro with the files.

My only concern is that with the Anton battery, the BNC connector section and the HDR on the back, this camera will be 3 feet long!

I hope I can balance it. At least it looks like the tripod plate now mounts on 2 points, is that correct?

Dave Beaty

Dave,

Yes, the GY-HD200 and GY-HD250 clamp onto the included tripod plate in the front and the back. These new cameras are only a couple of inches longer than the 100 series, when you include the battery bracket on both.

Carl

[Jack Walker]

Originally Posted by Carl Hicks

Regarding size: The 200/250 series cameras will be about 4 inches longer than the 100/110 series. This is comparing the 100/110 series body WITHOUT an after-market battery adaptor to a 200/250 series WITH the Anton Bauer adaptor. So if you compared both cameras, with AB battery adaptor, the difference would be maybe 2 inches or so.

Will the 200 and 250 with the wide angle lens still fit properly in the JVC case for the HD100?

Or is a new version of the case going to be available.

I am ordering the case, though I plan on upgrading within the near future to the HD200. Since the HD200 now has the larger body, I need to ask about the case.

Thank you!

[Carl Hicks]

Originally Posted by Jack Walker

Will the 200 and 250 with the wide angle lens still fit properly in the JVC case for the HD100?

Or is a new version of the case going to be available.

I am ordering the case, though I plan on upgrading within the near future to the HD200. Since the HD200 now has the larger body, I need to ask about the case.

Thank you!

Jack, I have posed the question to product management and I await an answer.

Regards, Carl

[Dave Beaty]

Yes, I too need to know about case options for the HD250 as we normally would order them with the camera. Since the size is different in length, that could be a problem with the current HD100 cases.

Also, I am working with my dealer and they are unsure about the battery system needed. Anton or IDX or adaptor like the HD100.

Any update on availablility or ship dates for HD250? Thanks

Dave Beaty

[Daniel Patton]

Originally Posted by Dave Beaty

Also, I am working with my dealer and they are unsure about the battery system needed. Anton or IDX or adaptor like the HD100.


Dave Beaty

Dave,

I was looking at the same thing the other day and found this...

"The built-in Anton-Bauer battery bracket provides compatibility with the most popular battery systems for ENG."

at:
http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/p...&feature_id=08


Unless JVC has changed this of course.

.

[Carl Hicks]

Originally Posted by Daniel Patton

Dave,

I was looking at the same thing the other day and found this...

"The built-in Anton-Bauer battery bracket provides compatibility with the most popular battery systems for ENG."

at:
http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/p...&feature_id=08


Unless JVC has changed this of course.

.

GY-HD250U is to ship with the Anton Bauer bracket standard. IDX will be available as an option.

[Carl Hicks]

Originally Posted by Dave Beaty

Yes, I too need to know about case options for the HD250 as we normally would order them with the camera. Since the size is different in length, that could be a problem with the current HD100 cases.

Also, I am working with my dealer and they are unsure about the battery system needed. Anton or IDX or adaptor like the HD100.

Any update on availablility or ship dates for HD250? Thanks

Dave Beaty

Jack & Dave,

It's likely that there will be a new model number for the case for the HD200 and HD250 cameras. I believe that the outer dimensions will be the same as the CB100, but the foam on the inside will be cut a little different.

Regards, Carl

[Ken Hodson]

In regards to the "Super Encoder" that allows full 60p using the same 19.7mbps, does this super encode also work its magic on 24p and 30p? If they are able to double the frame rate with an apparent increase in quality, the older 24p and 30p modes should be just gorgeous! If they are left unchanged, then there is some sevear untapped potential there. Any chance they boosted the old 480p60 mode to 480p120?(that would be very cool, although unlikely)