HD101 24p capture

Nima Taheri · July 25th, 2006, 07:08 AM

well, this was informative:)

I guess my question goes to Stephen Noe, or anybody with Liquid experience: can you work in a HDV project, but switch it to SD for export to tape?

Stephen L. Noe · July 25th, 2006, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nima Taheri

well, this was informative:)

I guess my question goes to Stephen Noe, or anybody with Liquid experience: can you work in a HDV project, but switch it to SD for export to tape?

You need to look at this thread. There are 4 video's on HOW to scale HD for SD delivery. Once you watch the videos you should be able to get the job done with no fuss. It's a snap once you know how.

The video series includes Scaling; the difference between the 2d editors; how to create proper slow motion with 50 or 60p.

Nima Taheri · July 25th, 2006, 11:30 AM

Stephen:

I installed the 7.1 upgrade, it says 7.1 (build 3494 upgr), but my clips keep coming up blank and with a "!" sign on it. Any ideas why? (I have changed everything in the control panel adding the jvc devices etc.)

Stephen L. Noe · July 25th, 2006, 11:39 AM

Does your about read:

7.1 Build 3494.SP1(3581)VTX

?

If not then go back into Avid's download site and go to the 7.1 folder and get Service Pack 1 for 7.1. This will get you current. I think S.Mullen had the same issue for a while and figured it out (on another thread) although I can't recall what he changed. Keep at it. It's usually something simple.

Nima Taheri · August 1st, 2006, 04:53 AM

Stephen

Thank you for the help, it all seems to work. Just wondering though, if I edit on a 720/24p timeline, change the prefs of that timeline to 720x486 16:9 (with the edited 1280*720 footage), and then using the 2D Editor to scale the video to about 67.5%, will that be best quality downconverting in Liquid? That easy?

Have you tried to compare the Liquid downconversion quality against other applications?

Stephen L. Noe · August 1st, 2006, 07:12 AM

Hi Nima,

As I've depicted, you have choices for your down convert. If you're producing DVD's then the simple "properties" way is sufficient. Allowing the program to use it's scaling without special attention to it is sufficient for DVD and for BetaSP dumps. In other words, I try not to create extra work when the simple method is easy and quick with great results. So, yes, it's that easy.

Using one of the 2d editors (CPU or Classic) has much more value when you're attempting to scale HD for filmout or when scaling SD for your HD timeline. Remember that the "Classic" editor is the all powerful editor and allows you to work in YUV color which is better for film because it's gamut is beyond RGB. In answer to your question about scaling quality, when you use the CPU or Classic there is no match on the market at that price range. You'd have to go way up the food chain (NLE wise to something like Discreet Smoke) in order to get the kind of power you have with Liquid's CPU and Classic editors.

July 25th, 2006, 11:39 AM	#19
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Does your about read: 7.1 Build 3494.SP1(3581)VTX ? If not then go back into Avid's download site and go to the 7.1 folder and get Service Pack 1 for 7.1. This will get you current. I think S.Mullen had the same issue for a while and figured it out (on another thread) although I can't recall what he changed. Keep at it. It's usually something simple. __________________ Advanced Avid Liquid Training found Here

August 1st, 2006, 07:12 AM	#21
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Hi Nima, As I've depicted, you have choices for your down convert. If you're producing DVD's then the simple "properties" way is sufficient. Allowing the program to use it's scaling without special attention to it is sufficient for DVD and for BetaSP dumps. In other words, I try not to create extra work when the simple method is easy and quick with great results. So, yes, it's that easy. Using one of the 2d editors (CPU or Classic) has much more value when you're attempting to scale HD for filmout or when scaling SD for your HD timeline. Remember that the "Classic" editor is the all powerful editor and allows you to work in YUV color which is better for film because it's gamut is beyond RGB. In answer to your question about scaling quality, when you use the CPU or Classic there is no match on the market at that price range. You'd have to go way up the food chain (NLE wise to something like Discreet Smoke) in order to get the kind of power you have with Liquid's CPU and Classic editors. __________________ Advanced Avid Liquid Training found Here

July 25th, 2006, 07:08 AM	#16
Nima Taheri Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 136	well, this was informative:) I guess my question goes to Stephen Noe, or anybody with Liquid experience: can you work in a HDV project, but switch it to SD for export to tape?

July 25th, 2006, 11:30 AM	#18
Nima Taheri Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 136	Stephen: I installed the 7.1 upgrade, it says 7.1 (build 3494 upgr), but my clips keep coming up blank and with a "!" sign on it. Any ideas why? (I have changed everything in the control panel adding the jvc devices etc.)

August 1st, 2006, 04:53 AM	#20
Nima Taheri Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 136	Stephen Thank you for the help, it all seems to work. Just wondering though, if I edit on a 720/24p timeline, change the prefs of that timeline to 720x486 16:9 (with the edited 1280*720 footage), and then using the 2D Editor to scale the video to about 67.5%, will that be best quality downconverting in Liquid? That easy? Have you tried to compare the Liquid downconversion quality against other applications?