Editing presets for JVC ProHD

Ram Ganesh · June 29th, 2006, 06:19 PM

Adobe has posted an update for ProHD -

http://snipurl.com/Ppro2update

Not sure whats new... we already can edit in Ppro2

Joel Aaron · June 29th, 2006, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram Ganesh

Adobe has posted an update for ProHD -

http://snipurl.com/Ppro2update

Not sure whats new... we already can edit in Ppro2

That URL didn't work for me.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...jsp?ftpID=3409

It looks like it adds 24P support without the need for Cineform if you don't want to invest in their codec.

Keith Ward · June 29th, 2006, 06:50 PM

That's what it looks like. This is very good news. Now if only Apple would wake up and do the same for FCP...

Hello, Steve? Steve? Anyone home in Cupertino?

Ram Ganesh · June 29th, 2006, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel Aaron

It looks like it adds 24P support without the need for Cineform if you don't want to invest in their codec.

doesnt this just add a preset - after all its just 7kb file :) - it would take a lot more to outperform the Cineform codec..right?

Keith Ward · June 29th, 2006, 07:59 PM

You're right, Ram -- 7kb does sound laughably inadequate to the task. But here's what it says on the download page:

"This update includes presets that enable Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 to edit progressive-scan HDV video recorded in JVC's ProHD progressive-scan modes. Supported modes: 24P, 25P, and 30P."

That sure sounds like native 24P support to me, although I could be way off on my interpretation...I'm going to download it and try it on my Alienware laptop tomorrow. I'll report my findings ASAP.

Joel Aaron · June 29th, 2006, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram Ganesh

doesnt this just add a preset - after all its just 7kb file :) - it would take a lot more to outperform the Cineform codec..right?

I don't think they are claiming to compete with Cineform here. Perhaps you always could edit 24P and a preset was all that was needed.

Jon Jaschob · June 29th, 2006, 10:26 PM

Steve is at Disneyland, along with JL........

Jonathan Nelson · June 30th, 2006, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel Aaron

That URL didn't work for me.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...jsp?ftpID=3409

It looks like it adds 24P support without the need for Cineform if you don't want to invest in their codec.

Sorry for the newb question.

In what way is hdv 24p not supported by the current version of ppro 2.0?

Drew Curran · June 30th, 2006, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Ward

You're right, Ram -- 7kb does sound laughably inadequate to the task. But here's what it says on the download page:

"This update includes presets that enable Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 to edit progressive-scan HDV video recorded in JVC's ProHD progressive-scan modes. Supported modes: 24P, 25P, and 30P."

That sure sounds like native 24P support to me, although I could be way off on my interpretation...I'm going to download it and try it on my Alienware laptop tomorrow. I'll report my findings ASAP.

Come on Apple... keep up!!!

Adobe could relaunch Premiere for OSX in the time its taken Apple to get their act together!!

Andrew

Keith Ward · June 30th, 2006, 05:01 AM

Jonathan,

Cineform makes it possible to edit the HDV files created by the HD100. Once you capture the files, Cineform converts them to a format PP can use. I've heard (although I've not tested) that PP 2.0 can handle the raw files created, but it would take so long to do edit them that it would be virtually impossible to get anything done.

Eric Alberttson · June 30th, 2006, 09:41 AM

Hello all,

I downloaded the preset and installed it. I hope to experiment with it today, but so far, it does come up with JVC ProHD HDV settings when creating a new file. Yes, this is not that revoutionary, as you could create a custom one that does the same thing, but it is nice that it is set up for you.

One thing I noticed is that though it now has JVC settings for the project, this update did not add in a JVC ProHD CAPTURE preset. It allows for EDITING film shot on the JVC GY-HD100, but not necessarily CAPTURING it. Interesting.

Marc Colemont · June 30th, 2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Ward

Jonathan,

Cineform makes it possible to edit the HDV files created by the HD100. Once you capture the files, Cineform converts them to a format PP can use. I've heard (although I've not tested) that PP 2.0 can handle the raw files created, but it would take so long to do edit them that it would be virtually impossible to get anything done.

It does make a huge difference while editing, the raw m2t files are much harder to handle then the converted files from Cineform which work as good as real-time while editing.

Joel Aaron · June 30th, 2006, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Nelson

Sorry for the newb question.

In what way is hdv 24p not supported by the current version of ppro 2.0?

Apparently 24p HDV is supported now. Previously Premiere without Cineform would only edit 30p.

Cineform converts HDV to their own codec that is faster for the computer to process as well as being much friendlier for compositing and color correction than HDV's mpeg is. Cineform.com tells their sales pitch.

Bart Walczak · July 1st, 2006, 02:55 PM

Hey, it was me who proposed that they should do it! Incredible, they actually listen to you :)

John Vincent · July 2nd, 2006, 01:00 PM

This is very good news. Thanks for the link and the info guys - keeps us posted on any other upgrades.

At this point, even though I love Macs, I'm glad I went the PC route/adobe - they really do seem to be listening, don't they?

john

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June 29th, 2006, 06:19 PM	#1
Ram Ganesh Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 175	Editing presets for JVC ProHD - PPro 2 Adobe has posted an update for ProHD - http://snipurl.com/Ppro2update Not sure whats new... we already can edit in Ppro2 __________________ http://www.wizedot.com

June 30th, 2006, 09:41 AM	#11
Eric Alberttson Tourist Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Jose, CA, USA Posts: 3	JVC GY-HD100 PPro Preset Hello all, I downloaded the preset and installed it. I hope to experiment with it today, but so far, it does come up with JVC ProHD HDV settings when creating a new file. Yes, this is not that revoutionary, as you could create a custom one that does the same thing, but it is nice that it is set up for you. One thing I noticed is that though it now has JVC settings for the project, this update did not add in a JVC ProHD CAPTURE preset. It allows for EDITING film shot on the JVC GY-HD100, but not necessarily CAPTURING it. Interesting.

July 2nd, 2006, 01:00 PM	#15
John Vincent Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,065	still wrapping head arounf PP2 This is very good news. Thanks for the link and the info guys - keeps us posted on any other upgrades. At this point, even though I love Macs, I'm glad I went the PC route/adobe - they really do seem to be listening, don't they? john evilgeniusentertainment.com

June 29th, 2006, 06:50 PM	#3
Keith Ward Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westminster MD Posts: 44	That's what it looks like. This is very good news. Now if only Apple would wake up and do the same for FCP... Hello, Steve? Steve? Anyone home in Cupertino?

June 29th, 2006, 07:59 PM	#5
Keith Ward Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westminster MD Posts: 44	You're right, Ram -- 7kb does sound laughably inadequate to the task. But here's what it says on the download page: "This update includes presets that enable Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 to edit progressive-scan HDV video recorded in JVC's ProHD progressive-scan modes. Supported modes: 24P, 25P, and 30P." That sure sounds like native 24P support to me, although I could be way off on my interpretation...I'm going to download it and try it on my Alienware laptop tomorrow. I'll report my findings ASAP.

June 29th, 2006, 10:26 PM	#7
Jon Jaschob Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 232	Steve is at Disneyland, along with JL........

June 30th, 2006, 05:01 AM	#10
Keith Ward Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westminster MD Posts: 44	Jonathan, Cineform makes it possible to edit the HDV files created by the HD100. Once you capture the files, Cineform converts them to a format PP can use. I've heard (although I've not tested) that PP 2.0 can handle the raw files created, but it would take so long to do edit them that it would be virtually impossible to get anything done.

July 1st, 2006, 02:55 PM	#14
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Hey, it was me who proposed that they should do it! Incredible, they actually listen to you :)