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i say save your money on sundance, they are a pain to deal with... there is a 30min film called "Lift" shot on 35mm. it was AMAZING. and they didn’t make it into the festival... i mean this was THE best short film ive ever seen in my life, and they didn’t make it!... so i say save the money and stick with local stuff, the local stuff is what gets you the official selections and wins. Although in cali you might have more competition than here in nyc. The reality is that you will never really make money or a name for yourself in sundance with a short... its really for the features that get something out of it.
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Just added a high rez version. Should play better. Still the audio may be lagging due to the Stream video, which always has audio lagging, at least on my computers.
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about the sound effects...
Brian that's excellent work. Makes me feel proud of my HD100u. One little thing I would've worked on a little bit more is the scene at the diner when her friend brings up the fact that the weirdo looks like her dad. She should've been more casual about it and the lead girl should've been a little less credulous at first-and perhaps some little joke in between would've helped. The transition from her friend suggesting that he looked like her father and her walking up to him to verify it was much too quick. Sorry it's just me being a backseat director here :-) So Brian, everything from the dialogue inside the car, the squish of the car seats, the door slam...all that was sound design done in post?
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Wow Mr Duke, truly one of the best films shot on the HD100 yet. Story wise it is good the way it is. I am sure there is alot more you can do with the characters, and story to make it a a bit longer, overall Mr. Duke, "You the Man" I am From Long Beach Area, you ever need help on a film shoot just let me know...
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Hey Brian.
Congratulations! The short looks really great. Good lighting, excellent work. I liked the look a lot and the story is nice. I would have liked seeing something ahppening to the husband though :) This is the perfect example of what we've been talking about for so long. With what is available today, with the HD100 and other indie-reachable tools, you can tell a story that looks every bit as professional as anything else. Again, congratulations and good luck. |
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I liked the two male characters, the killer/dad was an interesting combination of face and voice. The daughter had some good moments, I think that the last dialogue where she says something along the lines of "let's not talk about the past, we will work it out..." was emotionally good, but the lines came out a bit like... acting. It can be just a matter of reharsing that a little more and trying diffent things. This was also the case with some of the dialogues with the other woman . Don't get me wrong, the performances were good and pleasant, there were just a couple of spots where the acting could sound a little more realistic. Storywise I liked the twist but it didn't lead to a real conclusion. It's nice that father and daughter meat again but we want to know what happens to the couple. The hitman goes back and kills the husband? Does he tell his daughther about it? Why it was so important that the killer didn't miss the shot? What is the husband covering? Is there something happening while the killer talks with his daughter? And so, is it something incriminating the husband? :) Take care. |
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Thanks for your kind comments. Again, it was shot in 2 1/2 days so you can imagine we didn't have much time. The diner scene was even worse because we only had 3 hours to shoot it, AND it was open during those hours, which made it difficult. Loud noise in background. People interrupting etc, and yes I would have LOVED to have more time. Like I mentioned earlier I needed more TIME TIME TIME. I learned a lot from this little shoot, which to me was more of an experiment to test the equipment than anything. If I had another day or so, I would have spent more time with the actors, and covered more. I would say about 40% ended up being unusable, so I was limited in what I could use for editing. Quote:
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Actually I wrote this to be a SPEC for a feature, but thought I needed some sort of ending to work it as a short too. But essentianlly this was made to be done as a SPEC since there is so much more to the story, bacground, and things to come after the meeting with the Daughter and Dad, which will be the core of the movie. Your offer to help is good to know cause I WILL be doing several projects (different ones) coming up inn the next few months.
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The things that hit me as potential issues would be: - The overall length is a little long for the story and for festivals. Around 10 minutes gets you the best chance of being played. I think you could lose 3 minutes easy and probably more. Some of the scenes seemed really long to me. You could start the show at 1:20 and do titles for 30 seconds (max) and the story would work the same. I know it's painful to cut stuff you worked so hard to get, but that's what happens. Save the credits for the end, it's a short. - The ADR was noticeable to me as well as some foley. I'm not a sound guy, but my gut feeling when listening was that the location background levels could probably be bumped up a bit. Perhaps room reverb on the voices need some tweaking. I'd be curious what the other sound guy thinks he's hearing and his prescription for working on it. - The outside noise that the Dad reacts to in the hotel room didn't sound like it was coming through a door/wall. Muffle that somehow. - makeup seemed overdone or wrong colors chosen on the actresses. A little late now, but a quick test ahead of time may have revealed it. - On a story/plot level I think it's pretty weak. That may be because you say you couldn't use 40% of what you shot so I won't get into it. It just seems like a story that wants to be a thriller but ended up as a drama. - I think the Opera music might have worked better for me if was introduced with the killer working on the gun and then his "stalk w/music" was intercut with the girl's day... so he's gradually getting closer and closer... once he's in their proximity I don't think I'd cut to their conversation though. It's pretty jarring for that music to come and go right there. If his music enters their world you'd know they were in big trouble. It doesn't even matter if we know which girl is the target - that's why you could drop the opening scene if you wanted to. Overall I think you did a great job and it's better than 90% of the stuff out there. |
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The girl's car driving conversation seemed too clean too. A little more wind noise perhaps and maybe and the stereo down a little. I didn't personally notice any sync issues... it was more of a "this is so clean, it's too clean" feeling. I'm going through the same issues myself. I'm going to try to testing a sampling (convolving) reverb. Have you tried that? I generally like the photography which is why I didn't mention it. You've got some good looks in there. Oh - the Star Wars wipes don't really match drama to my mind. I read after I posted that this was intended to be a feature. If you're going to try to do a drama without stars it will be very tough to sell to distributors. If the script is really good approach better actors via their managers. If they aren't working they might make a deal with you. One distributor advised me to "call distributors who distribute similar movies before you shoot a frame, they'll let you know what it would take for them to be interested." The cool thing for you is you can direct them to your website and say - 90 minutes of "this" and see what they say. Their feedback will be better than most of what we can schlep at you. But as long as I'm schlepping... I still think your shot at 1:20 is cool... I'm going to re-recommend at least do a test cut with that as the opening and nix a bunch of title credits. Ask some of your friends what they think, but to me it gets the show off to a start that might hook screeners more quickly. Then it cuts right to the girls... car to car, killer to victim... I'm tellingya it works. ;-) |
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Hehe - take a few more votes on that one. :-) Anyway - there should be no doubt you can pull off a feature with this gear and have it look good. How does it look in HD? |
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