HD100 -- Specific Questions at DVinfo.net

Cher Holm · June 18th, 2006, 09:14 PM

Hello all,
I am definitely buying an HD100 (or 110) in the next few weeks.

I have read all the info I can find as well as many of the threads here. I am left with a couple of questions maybe someone can answer for me.

Does the HD100 do SD in 16:9? (Is all video, HD and HDV, no matter the framerate and resolution, 16:9? or is some 4:3?)

Does the HD100 do SD in 60p? or is SD also a max of 30p, like HDV? In other words, can I get high quality slow motion in SD (like will be available for HDV with the HD200?)

When shooting 30p I read that there is a setting that blends frames to get a look closer to 60p. My question is, when shooting in this blending mode (or is it a playback mode?) are half the frames still without the "double image" -- so clean stills can be pulled out, or all the frames blended.

I do cinema verite. I have shot a lot super 8 and some 16 and super 16. I plan to shoot 24p with the HD100. However, I read in threads that the 24p looks "jerky." I am not sure I understand this. Film shot at 24 frames does not look jerky. Is there something about the character of the video at 24p that makes it look jerky as compared to film?

Thank you in advance for your answers. These are questions I can't get clear in my mind

Giuseppe Pugliese · June 18th, 2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cher Holm

I do cinema verite. I have shot a lot super 8 and some 16 and super 16. I plan to shoot 24p with the HD100. However, I read in threads that the 24p looks "jerky." I am not sure I understand this. Film shot at 24 frames does not look jerky. Is there something about the character of the video at 24p that makes it look jerky as compared to film?

This comment that you see on here comes from people who don’t know how to use camera movements for 24p, or they are used to 30p or interlaced formats.
if you have shot 16mm at 24p you will be right at home I believe. I've shot with the HD100 and also have lots of footage from others who have shot with it as well, there’s nothing "jerky" about it.

As far as your HD question about there being a 4:3 aspect ratio for HD content... From what I know, all true HD content is in 16:9 aspect. HD content is 16:9 (or wider *cinemascope, 2.35:1, 2.40:1, ect..*) . HD footage is wide for you to be engulfed into the experience more, like in a theater, the screen is wide so you are "IN" the movie. The standard for HD broadcast is in the 16:9 aspect.

Brian Luce · June 18th, 2006, 10:12 PM

actually it shoots mini dv in 4.3

Cher Holm · June 18th, 2006, 10:16 PM

Thank you for your answer about 24p and the jerkiness. That is what I was thinking.

Regarding 4:3 -- I am actually asking about Standard Definition on the HD100. I understand that all the HDV will be in 16:9. I am wondering if something I would shoot in Standard Definition DV on the camera would also have the 16:9 frame.

***EDIT***
I see that as I was writing this, Brian posted the answer. Thanks!

Steve Benner · June 18th, 2006, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cher Holm

Does the HD100 do SD in 60p? or is SD also a max of 30p, like HDV? In other words, can I get high quality slow motion in SD (like will be available for HDV with the HD200?)

When shooting 30p I read that there is a setting that blends frames to get a look closer to 60p. My question is, when shooting in this blending mode (or is it a playback mode?) are half the frames still without the "double image" -- so clean stills can be pulled out, or all the frames blended.
Thank you in advance for your answers. These are questions I can't get clear in my mind

Yes it does both a 480/60P and a 576/50P. Both are shot on the HDV format, but are full 60 and 50 frames. They can be upresed very nicely in MPEG StreamClip, especially the 576 from what I here since there is more inherent resolution (I have only tried the 60P so far). From this point I use Cinema Tools to conform to the frame rate (24P or 30P) which provides Undercranking. This feature often gets overlooked in the HD100. If you don't do a lot of Undercranking, then this can come in handy as even the upressed footage does not look bad. In SD the footage is crystal clear. It can also shoot 720/60P, but you need a capture card, a laptop and a HD/SDI convertor.

Since the camera shoots at twice the frame rate (30P = 60 Frames, but half get discarded on to tape) it has a Motion Smooth funtion. I have not used it yet, but I have seen tests with it. Motion on playback is a little smoother, but stills will be two blurred frames together. Instead of the camera tossing the extra frames, it blends the two togther.

June 18th, 2006, 09:14 PM	#1
Cher Holm New Boot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 5	HD100 -- Specific Questions Hello all, I am definitely buying an HD100 (or 110) in the next few weeks. I have read all the info I can find as well as many of the threads here. I am left with a couple of questions maybe someone can answer for me. Does the HD100 do SD in 16:9? (Is all video, HD and HDV, no matter the framerate and resolution, 16:9? or is some 4:3?) Does the HD100 do SD in 60p? or is SD also a max of 30p, like HDV? In other words, can I get high quality slow motion in SD (like will be available for HDV with the HD200?) When shooting 30p I read that there is a setting that blends frames to get a look closer to 60p. My question is, when shooting in this blending mode (or is it a playback mode?) are half the frames still without the "double image" -- so clean stills can be pulled out, or all the frames blended. I do cinema verite. I have shot a lot super 8 and some 16 and super 16. I plan to shoot 24p with the HD100. However, I read in threads that the 24p looks "jerky." I am not sure I understand this. Film shot at 24 frames does not look jerky. Is there something about the character of the video at 24p that makes it look jerky as compared to film? Thank you in advance for your answers. These are questions I can't get clear in my mind

June 18th, 2006, 10:12 PM	#3
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	actually it shoots mini dv in 4.3

June 18th, 2006, 10:16 PM	#4
Cher Holm New Boot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 5	Thank you for your answer about 24p and the jerkiness. That is what I was thinking. Regarding 4:3 -- I am actually asking about Standard Definition on the HD100. I understand that all the HDV will be in 16:9. I am wondering if something I would shoot in Standard Definition DV on the camera would also have the 16:9 frame. *EDIT* I see that as I was writing this, Brian posted the answer. Thanks!