GY-HD100 not shoot DV-60i in 16:9 ?! at DVinfo.net

Ron German · May 7th, 2006, 09:12 AM

Hi
I`ve ordered my HD100AU from B&H, but today got surprised to know from an Chuck Gloman`s on line article (Digital Cinematography / Product Review: JVC HD100U Camcorder) that GY-HD100 does`t shoot DV-60i in 16:9.
And I ask why this limitation from this so good camera.
Best
Ron

Earl Thurston · May 7th, 2006, 10:10 AM

It can shoot 16:9 at DV-60i, but according to the manual on Page 62:

"The resolution in the vertical direction drops compared to 4:3 video."

This implies that the DV 4:3 image is cropped and then scaled for some reason. I haven't tested the difference myself to see for sure.

But regardless, your best bet would be to shoot HDV-SD60p instead. You'll get 16:9 at full resolution, and the 60 progressive frames cross-convert to DV-60i beautifully. (Plus, you have the option of pulling slow motion from that footage without interlace flicker.)

Jonathan Ames · May 7th, 2006, 10:11 AM

We don't shoot in this format but just for grins this morning I dialed in 60/30 frame rate, executed dv-60i and set the aspect to 16:9. I shot some footage and playing it back I'm seeing 16:9 60i so either our cameras are special or 60i at 16:9 is supported. Someone else that gets into this SD mode might want to correctively comment if I'm wrong but...

Ron German · May 7th, 2006, 12:43 PM

Thank you Earl and Jonathan
Earl, you mean cross-convert to DV-60i via software (in my case with Vegas 5.0)?
Best regards
Ron

Jiri Bakala · May 7th, 2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ames

We don't shoot in this format but just for grins this morning I dialed in 60/30 frame rate, executed dv-60i and set the aspect to 16:9. I shot some footage and playing it back I'm seeing 16:9 60i so either our cameras are special or 60i at 16:9 is supported. Someone else that gets into this SD mode might want to correctively comment if I'm wrong but...

16x9 in SD is supported, that article is simply wrong. I tried to find a way of contacting the writer to no avail... It bugs me when someone publishes (and likely collect money for) an article that's based on a manual, perhaps JVC web description and maybe a brief encounter with the camera. Completely unprofessional. Prime example of how rumors get born!

Earl Thurston · May 7th, 2006, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron German

Earl, you mean cross-convert to DV-60i via software (in my case with Vegas 5.0)?

Yes, that's correct.

Chad Terpstra · May 7th, 2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl Thurston

But regardless, your best bet would be to shoot HDV-SD60p instead. You'll get 16:9 at full resolution, and the 60 progressive frames cross-convert to DV-60i beautifully. (Plus, you have the option of pulling slow motion from that footage without interlace flicker.)

Does anyone shoot in 60pSD on a regular basis? Is there a good workflow for using it? I have to be honest that I haven't seen a whole lot of samples where people have utilized it as an over-cranked slow motion option.

Ron German · May 7th, 2006, 07:55 PM

Dear Jiri
Are you shure the camera is supports capable of 16x9 in SD (DV) in 60i? Thank you
Ron

Tim Holtermann · May 7th, 2006, 08:37 PM

You may also want to consider shooting in HD 30p and then outputing your standard definition 60i from the Editor for best image results.

Jiri Bakala · May 7th, 2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron German

Dear Jiri
Are you shure the camera is supports capable of 16x9 in SD (DV) in 60i? Thank you
Ron

Ron, that's affirmative! I have shot two projects that way already. To be 100% sure, I actually took the camera out just now and checked for you. YES, IT WILL SHOOT 16x9 60i IN SD :-)

May 7th, 2006, 09:12 AM	#1
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	GY-HD100 not shoot DV-60i in 16:9 ?! Hi I`ve ordered my HD100AU from B&H, but today got surprised to know from an Chuck Gloman`s on line article (Digital Cinematography / Product Review: JVC HD100U Camcorder) that GY-HD100 does`t shoot DV-60i in 16:9. And I ask why this limitation from this so good camera. Best Ron

May 7th, 2006, 10:10 AM	#2
Earl Thurston Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Burnaby & Maple Ridge BC Posts: 289	It can shoot 16:9 at DV-60i, but according to the manual on Page 62: "The resolution in the vertical direction drops compared to 4:3 video." This implies that the DV 4:3 image is cropped and then scaled for some reason. I haven't tested the difference myself to see for sure. But regardless, your best bet would be to shoot HDV-SD60p instead. You'll get 16:9 at full resolution, and the 60 progressive frames cross-convert to DV-60i beautifully. (Plus, you have the option of pulling slow motion from that footage without interlace flicker.) __________________ Earl R. Thurston, Stargate Connections Inc. Made with GY-HD100: The Container Adventures: The Rescue

May 7th, 2006, 10:11 AM	#3
Jonathan Ames 2nd Unit TV Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 509	We don't shoot in this format but just for grins this morning I dialed in 60/30 frame rate, executed dv-60i and set the aspect to 16:9. I shot some footage and playing it back I'm seeing 16:9 60i so either our cameras are special or 60i at 16:9 is supported. Someone else that gets into this SD mode might want to correctively comment if I'm wrong but...

May 7th, 2006, 12:43 PM	#4
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Thank you Earl and Jonathan Earl, you mean cross-convert to DV-60i via software (in my case with Vegas 5.0)? Best regards Ron

May 7th, 2006, 07:55 PM	#8
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Dear Jiri Are you shure the camera is supports capable of 16x9 in SD (DV) in 60i? Thank you Ron

May 7th, 2006, 08:37 PM	#9
Tim Holtermann Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 184	You may also want to consider shooting in HD 30p and then outputing your standard definition 60i from the Editor for best image results.