HD-100 Video capture Sudden FAILURE! at DVinfo.net

Ed Hill · April 6th, 2006, 10:10 AM

Hi,

My HD-100 has performd perfectly for paying clients, until this week!

The camera shoots fine, records to tape and captures to PC or Mac in DV format.

The camera also would video capture HDV 30fps or HDV 24fps up until yesterday. I loaned the guy who directed our last music video the HD 100 to capture footage into his Mac with Lumiere HD. He says that he captured one clip then the Lumiere HD failed to recognize the camera and HDV 24fps footage the next morning.

I brought the camera home and attempted to re- capture footage I easily captured last week. Oops! The HD-100 is no longer recognized by HD Link, even running the same HDV 30fps video tape that I successfully captured last week.

a) Has any one on DVINFO encountered this failure in the HD-100u?

b) Is it possible the Mac box has damaged the HD-100?

c) Does JVC tech support know of any other users with failure to capture video issues?

Thanks for any help,

Ed Hill

Laszlo Horvath · April 6th, 2006, 10:16 AM

This happened with me about a year ago. My new computer's firewire connector's wires was hooked to the motherboard in the wrong order, and killed my firewire printer, and later my Panasonic DV VTR.
I don't say this happened at your friends place, but may worth to check that Mac computer's wireing

Laszlo

Steven Thomas · April 6th, 2006, 10:23 AM

Do not hot swap the HD100's firewire!

In fact, it's not a bad idea to power down both the computer and camera's power before plugging in firewire.

It appears you need to send it to JVC to have them repair the firewire interface.

This has happened to others.

Paolo Ciccone · April 6th, 2006, 10:59 AM

The HD100 manual advices to connect the FW cable (and other cables as well) when the camera is off. I saw the same warning with other devices (my Ozonic keyboard, for example) and always connect my HD100 when it's off. I don't take the same step for my PowerBook but sometimes I put it to sleep, just in case.
A static spike could do a lot of damage.

Jiri Bakala · April 6th, 2006, 11:24 AM

Yes, it is the FW connection. We had this happen with a SONY VTR (XDCAM). It fried the FW circutry of the VTR and the dealer told us never to hot-swap FW cables. This was on a Mac.

Tim Dashwood · April 6th, 2006, 11:34 AM

6-pin firewire connectors carry enough voltage to power small firewire drives, and therefore can fry the firewire board on the camera if there is a short. You don't hear about this sort of thing on cameras with the little 4-pin FW connectors.

We have seen this on a few occasions around here. As a general rule, plug the camera in when it is powered off!

However, to be on the safe side, you could buy a cable like this, which disables the bus power in the 6-pin cable.
http://fwdepot.com/thestore/product_...roducts_id/356

Bill Pryor · April 6th, 2006, 03:51 PM

Regardless of what they say about "hot swappable," I never plug in or unplug anything that's turned on. I've seen "hot swappable" drives fried when doing that.

Ed Hill · April 7th, 2006, 09:34 AM

Guys,

Thanks for solving the mystery.

I can always count on the DVINFO community to figure these things out.

Ed

April 6th, 2006, 10:10 AM	#1
Ed Hill Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 104	HD-100 Video capture Sudden FAILURE! Hi, My HD-100 has performd perfectly for paying clients, until this week! The camera shoots fine, records to tape and captures to PC or Mac in DV format. The camera also would video capture HDV 30fps or HDV 24fps up until yesterday. I loaned the guy who directed our last music video the HD 100 to capture footage into his Mac with Lumiere HD. He says that he captured one clip then the Lumiere HD failed to recognize the camera and HDV 24fps footage the next morning. I brought the camera home and attempted to re- capture footage I easily captured last week. Oops! The HD-100 is no longer recognized by HD Link, even running the same HDV 30fps video tape that I successfully captured last week. a) Has any one on DVINFO encountered this failure in the HD-100u? b) Is it possible the Mac box has damaged the HD-100? c) Does JVC tech support know of any other users with failure to capture video issues? Thanks for any help, Ed Hill __________________ Ed Hill HighlyDef Productions, Atlanta, GA prblog.edhillpr.com Video and Online Advertising ed@highlydef.com

April 6th, 2006, 10:59 AM	#4
Paolo Ciccone Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 1,116	The HD100 manual advices to connect the FW cable (and other cables as well) when the camera is off. I saw the same warning with other devices (my Ozonic keyboard, for example) and always connect my HD100 when it's off. I don't take the same step for my PowerBook but sometimes I put it to sleep, just in case. A static spike could do a lot of damage. __________________ Paolo http://www.paolociccone.com Demo Reel

April 6th, 2006, 11:24 AM	#5
Jiri Bakala Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 706	Yes, it is the FW connection. We had this happen with a SONY VTR (XDCAM). It fried the FW circutry of the VTR and the dealer told us never to hot-swap FW cables. This was on a Mac. __________________ www.ascentfilms.com

April 6th, 2006, 11:34 AM	#6
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	6-pin firewire connectors carry enough voltage to power small firewire drives, and therefore can fry the firewire board on the camera if there is a short. You don't hear about this sort of thing on cameras with the little 4-pin FW connectors. We have seen this on a few occasions around here. As a general rule, plug the camera in when it is powered off! However, to be on the safe side, you could buy a cable like this, which disables the bus power in the 6-pin cable. http://fwdepot.com/thestore/product_...roducts_id/356 __________________ Tim Dashwood

April 7th, 2006, 09:34 AM	#8
Ed Hill Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 104	Guys, Thanks for solving the mystery. I can always count on the DVINFO community to figure these things out. Ed __________________ Ed Hill HighlyDef Productions, Atlanta, GA prblog.edhillpr.com Video and Online Advertising ed@highlydef.com

April 6th, 2006, 10:16 AM	#2
Laszlo Horvath Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LaSalle Ontario Canada Posts: 289 Images: 5	This happened with me about a year ago. My new computer's firewire connector's wires was hooked to the motherboard in the wrong order, and killed my firewire printer, and later my Panasonic DV VTR. I don't say this happened at your friends place, but may worth to check that Mac computer's wireing Laszlo

April 6th, 2006, 10:23 AM	#3
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Do not hot swap the HD100's firewire! In fact, it's not a bad idea to power down both the computer and camera's power before plugging in firewire. It appears you need to send it to JVC to have them repair the firewire interface. This has happened to others.

April 6th, 2006, 03:51 PM	#7
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Regardless of what they say about "hot swappable," I never plug in or unplug anything that's turned on. I've seen "hot swappable" drives fried when doing that.