HD100 Series Scene File Recipes & Downloadable .SCN files

Paolo Ciccone · March 19th, 2007, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Maier

What do you mean?

This is something you do in programs like FCP or After Effects. Say that you need to brighten some clip. You can use color correction of duplicate the clip, stack the copy on a track above the original, set the blend mode to "Add" and then set the opacity to, oh say, 30%-40%.
You have to see it in action. Very easy trick to add more detail to dark clips without shifting the colors and very easy to adjust by playing with the transparency level.

Robin Hemerik · April 6th, 2007, 04:40 PM

Hi there, I'm eager to download Steven Noe's Panamatch-scenefiles, but the forum says I'm not allowed to open that page. Anyone knows why?

Amos Kim · April 19th, 2007, 02:45 AM

Hey Paulo, have you measured how many stops of exposure you get with your tc3 scene file?

Paolo Ciccone · April 20th, 2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos Kim

Hey Paolo, have you measured how many stops of exposure you get with your tc3 scene file?

It's about 6.

Sean Adair · April 20th, 2007, 01:57 PM

Paulo, Could you comment on applying your scene file to the HD200 series?
My feeling is that it isn't a direct translation after looking at comparision footage. I realize you may want to take some more time before releasing a 200 series scene file with your name on it, but some hints would be really appreciated!

Paolo Ciccone · April 20th, 2007, 03:46 PM

Hi Sean.

No, the HD100 color settings cannot be applied to the HD200, the 14-bit color matrix is not compatible with the 12-bit version of the HD100 and the resulting colors will be totally wrong.

I just finished arrangements with JVC during NAB and I will receive a HD250 from JVC soon. I take the opportunity to thank Marion Ciliberto of JVC for the cooperation and for making this possible. As soon as I receive the camera I will work on a version of TrueColor for that camera. This version will also sport even more accurate configuration thanks to the ChromaDuMonde chart provided by DSC.

I had a long conversation with David Corley, founder of DSC, at NAB. Truly one of the highlights of the event. David has forgotten more that most of us will ever know about color and cameras and he is very a very approachable person with a passion for education and sharing.

If you have the chance to go to any of the trade shows where DSC shows its product please stop by and take the opportunity to take a look. Very likely you'll learn something new about your camera. BTW, DSC has a new backfocus chart that solves the issue of adjusting back-focus when the lens is in wide-angle mode. Defintely worth consideration: http://www.dsclabs.com

If everything goes well I should have an HD200/250 version of TrueColor in 3-4 weeks. I will keep you posted.

Carl Martin · April 20th, 2007, 04:59 PM

Hey Paolo,

Thanks for taking the time to do this, you do awesome work. Also thanks to JVC for the loaner.

Will your new color files for the 200/250 be for SD and HD, or just for HD?

Thanks again,

Carl

Paolo Ciccone · April 20th, 2007, 05:19 PM

I calibrate the cameras strictly in HD mode.

Take care.

Carl Martin · April 21st, 2007, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paolo Ciccone

I calibrate the cameras strictly in HD mode.

Take care.

The reason I asked is that I use your T-3 on my 100 in DV-SD and the picture is great.

Thanks

Sean Adair · April 21st, 2007, 08:44 AM

Awesome. Thanks Paulo. You confirmed my suspicions, since I had put in yours and tried some others scene files, and results were different from those I had seen online. I don't have good color charts, or a proper calibrated monitor yet, but I don't want to compromise the footage I acquire.
Sorry if I was pushy on this, since for some reason I thought you had mentioned you already had a 200 series camera to work with.

Thanks also to JVC USA and DSC for assistance here. This really is a win-win situation for all concerned!

I'll also be very interested for your input on the picture noise that can be intermittently troublesome on the 200 series when you get yours. This might even be from some of us abusing the scene parameters - possibly even by trying to use 100 series settings (which I was guilty of doing).

Paolo Ciccone · April 21st, 2007, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Martin

The reason I asked is that I use your T-3 on my 100 in DV-SD and the picture is great.

I bet :)
The difference between 601 and 709 color spaces is minimal so I'm not surprised. I just wanted to make sure that I don't do any verification or test in SD.

Take care.

Stephen L. Noe · June 12th, 2007, 08:51 PM

Hello All,

Since the DVinfo server share is D.O.A. and I get the request often enough, I'll post the "Panamatch" recipe here in screenshot format.

Click here for Panamatch Recipe

Enjoy! and Keep Shooting!!

Adam Greenwald · June 21st, 2007, 12:46 PM

please help. I'd love to check out Stephen Noe's scene files. Can anyone help? I tried to download them from the links but they don't work.

Thanks!

Dean Lomax · July 22nd, 2007, 01:24 AM

Hi Folks

Have had a good look through the forum, but may be missing the answer.

THe scene files that Paolo and Tim have put up, especially the true colour files, do they work on the PAL versions of the 101 and 201, and also in SD mode or only HD mode.

regards
Dean Lomax

Brian Luce · November 8th, 2007, 03:33 PM

What are some of the qualatative differences between these two settings? They seem similar but panamatch seems to a more comprehensive list of settings.

April 19th, 2007, 02:45 AM	#108
Amos Kim Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 335	latitude and TC3 Hey Paulo, have you measured how many stops of exposure you get with your tc3 scene file?

April 20th, 2007, 01:57 PM	#110
Sean Adair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 463	Paulo, Could you comment on applying your scene file to the HD200 series? My feeling is that it isn't a direct translation after looking at comparision footage. I realize you may want to take some more time before releasing a 200 series scene file with your name on it, but some hints would be really appreciated! __________________ Sean Adair - NYC - www.adairproductions.com JVC GY-HM-700 with 17x5 lens, MacPro 3.2ghz 8-core, 18gb. (JVC HD200 4 sale soon)

April 20th, 2007, 03:46 PM	#111
Paolo Ciccone Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 1,116	Hi Sean. No, the HD100 color settings cannot be applied to the HD200, the 14-bit color matrix is not compatible with the 12-bit version of the HD100 and the resulting colors will be totally wrong. I just finished arrangements with JVC during NAB and I will receive a HD250 from JVC soon. I take the opportunity to thank Marion Ciliberto of JVC for the cooperation and for making this possible. As soon as I receive the camera I will work on a version of TrueColor for that camera. This version will also sport even more accurate configuration thanks to the ChromaDuMonde chart provided by DSC. I had a long conversation with David Corley, founder of DSC, at NAB. Truly one of the highlights of the event. David has forgotten more that most of us will ever know about color and cameras and he is very a very approachable person with a passion for education and sharing. If you have the chance to go to any of the trade shows where DSC shows its product please stop by and take the opportunity to take a look. Very likely you'll learn something new about your camera. BTW, DSC has a new backfocus chart that solves the issue of adjusting back-focus when the lens is in wide-angle mode. Defintely worth consideration: http://www.dsclabs.com If everything goes well I should have an HD200/250 version of TrueColor in 3-4 weeks. I will keep you posted. __________________ Paolo http://www.paolociccone.com Demo Reel

April 20th, 2007, 05:19 PM	#113
Paolo Ciccone Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 1,116	I calibrate the cameras strictly in HD mode. Take care. __________________ Paolo http://www.paolociccone.com Demo Reel

April 21st, 2007, 08:44 AM	#115
Sean Adair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 463	Awesome. Thanks Paulo. You confirmed my suspicions, since I had put in yours and tried some others scene files, and results were different from those I had seen online. I don't have good color charts, or a proper calibrated monitor yet, but I don't want to compromise the footage I acquire. Sorry if I was pushy on this, since for some reason I thought you had mentioned you already had a 200 series camera to work with. Thanks also to JVC USA and DSC for assistance here. This really is a win-win situation for all concerned! I'll also be very interested for your input on the picture noise that can be intermittently troublesome on the 200 series when you get yours. This might even be from some of us abusing the scene parameters - possibly even by trying to use 100 series settings (which I was guilty of doing). __________________ Sean Adair - NYC - www.adairproductions.com JVC GY-HM-700 with 17x5 lens, MacPro 3.2ghz 8-core, 18gb. (JVC HD200 4 sale soon)

April 6th, 2007, 04:40 PM	#107
Robin Hemerik Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 36	Hi there, I'm eager to download Steven Noe's Panamatch-scenefiles, but the forum says I'm not allowed to open that page. Anyone knows why?

April 20th, 2007, 04:59 PM	#112
Carl Martin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York Posts: 164	Hey Paolo, Thanks for taking the time to do this, you do awesome work. Also thanks to JVC for the loaner. Will your new color files for the 200/250 be for SD and HD, or just for HD? Thanks again, Carl

June 12th, 2007, 08:51 PM	#117
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Hello All, Since the DVinfo server share is D.O.A. and I get the request often enough, I'll post the "Panamatch" recipe here in screenshot format. Click here for Panamatch Recipe Enjoy! and Keep Shooting!! __________________ Advanced Avid Liquid Training found Here

June 21st, 2007, 12:46 PM	#118
Adam Greenwald Tourist Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: United States Posts: 4	How can I get Stephen Noe's scene files please help. I'd love to check out Stephen Noe's scene files. Can anyone help? I tried to download them from the links but they don't work. Thanks!

July 22nd, 2007, 01:24 AM	#119
Dean Lomax New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bunbury, Western Australia Posts: 8	Scene Files Hi Folks Have had a good look through the forum, but may be missing the answer. THe scene files that Paolo and Tim have put up, especially the true colour files, do they work on the PAL versions of the 101 and 201, and also in SD mode or only HD mode. regards Dean Lomax

November 8th, 2007, 03:33 PM	#120
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	Panamatch version True color III What are some of the qualatative differences between these two settings? They seem similar but panamatch seems to a more comprehensive list of settings.