HD100 Series Scene File Recipes & Downloadable .SCN files

David Scattergood · September 6th, 2006, 01:05 PM

Would I be correct in saying that you can't use the camera itself as a card reader (which unfortunately I don't have...although I have a Panasonic mini DV cam with USB...that could work eh?)?
Currently playing around with the recipe's kindly posted on this forum...thought I'd first play around with the 'Amelie' recipe. Using this in 25p (SD) the image is extremely shuttery...am I doing something wrong?
Understand the delicate nature or progressive shooting but this quite extreme.
Shutter speed issue...that fact this is not in HDV?
thanks folks.
dave.

Tim Dashwood · September 6th, 2006, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Scattergood

Would I be correct in saying that you can't use the camera itself as a card reader (which unfortunately I don't have...although I have a Panasonic mini DV cam with USB...that could work eh?)?
Currently playing around with the recipe's kindly posted on this forum...thought I'd first play around with the 'Amelie' recipe. Using this in 25p (SD) the image is extremely shuttery...am I doing something wrong?
Understand the delicate nature or progressive shooting but this quite extreme.
Shutter speed issue...that fact this is not in HDV?
thanks folks.
dave.

You should set your shutter speed to 1/50th for shooting in PAL DV (25P or 50i). The camera process settings will not affect the shutter in any way.

David Scattergood · September 7th, 2006, 08:44 AM

Cheers Tim - not sure why the shutter speed had altered???
Same apply (1/50) for HDV?
must admit I'm struggling a little over CAM1/2 etc and the EXT.SCN and USER buttons?!?! Can the camera store more than 4 scenes whereas you can only store 4 of them on a card?
Can't say I've fallen in love with the JVC manual!

Thanks.
dave

Carl Martin · September 8th, 2006, 07:17 AM

Hey Tim,

Under file manage, what is the selection LIVE HD30P/HD25P used for, and when should it be used for?

Thanks.

Tim Dashwood · September 8th, 2006, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Scattergood

Cheers Tim - not sure why the shutter speed had altered???
Same apply (1/50) for HDV?

Yes. Shutter speed is shutter speed regardless of format. However, similar to what Canon does, the default shutter speed in DV mode is 1/25th on E models (1/24th on U models.) That is something to watch out for when using the camera in DV mode. The default shutter speeds in HDV mode are correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Scattergood

must admit I'm struggling a little over CAM1/2 etc and the EXT.SCN and USER buttons?!?! Can the camera store more than 4 scenes whereas you can only store 4 of them on a card?

There are two user spaces on the camera and max 4 on any size SD card.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Scattergood

Can't say I've fallen in love with the JVC manual!

It sometimes seems like the English manual was written by an automatic translator (Babelfish.) How many times have you seen "time cord" instead of "timecode?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Martin

Under file manage, what is the selection LIVE HD30P/HD25P used for, and when should it be used for?

They are just factory preset scene files designed as a starting point for new users. I've never used them, so I can't really comment on them.

David Scattergood · September 8th, 2006, 07:40 AM

Cheers Tim.

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Scattergood
must admit I'm struggling a little over CAM1/2 etc and the EXT.SCN and USER buttons?!?! Can the camera store more than 4 scenes whereas you can only store 4 of them on a card?

There are two user spaces on the camera and max 4 on any SD card.

Cam 1 and 2 then EXT.SCN a through 4 right? I'll have to read up a bit more on this...I figured the User buttons were used for scene files also...and yes th translation is a bit 'wronged up' at times - I'd even asked on another thread what 'time cord' was!

Cheers for the reply.

Carl Martin · September 8th, 2006, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood

They are just factory preset scene files designed as a starting point for new users. I've never used them.

Thanks Tim.

Tim Dashwood · September 8th, 2006, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Scattergood

...I figured the User buttons were used for scene files also...

The external user buttons can be assigned functions in the SWITCH MODE menu. (BARS, PRESET TEMP., B STRETCH 1-2-3, B COMPRESS 1-2-3, AE LEVEL + or -)

These buttons cannot be used to recall scene files.

Keith Gruchala · September 9th, 2006, 02:53 PM

Most of the links published are broke for recipe

David Scattergood · September 10th, 2006, 03:26 AM

Thanks Tim - I'm getting there!

Christer Molander · September 15th, 2006, 04:41 PM

Thank you all on this thread for your knowledge. I´ve learned a lot about camerasettings to achieve a special look in-cam. Does somebody know if this is doable on a (for example) Sony DSR570. I´m about to do a shooting of a theatrical piece with 3 Sony 570 and a JVC 101.The Sonys will work from long to mid-range and the JVC go extremclose on one actors face. I would like to have a bleachout look from all of them but less so from the JVC101.

Thanks for all the reciepe on scene files.

George David · September 16th, 2006, 11:43 AM

Hello. I've been using Tim's various receipes (color reversal, warm), Stephen's panamatch, and Paolo's TC the past few months. All of them are great and have their own uses. Which HD100 setting do you guys think is the closest to Steven Dempsey's panalook (XL-H1)?

Here's an example footage (warning, large download):

http://www.realm.cc/upload/disjecta/FridayHarbor.wmv

David Scattergood · September 17th, 2006, 01:43 PM

That's really special George, I'm struggling to believe this is from the same camera I have in front of me (still learning the multitude of elements that go into this and I haven't as yet had chance to film in high def).
Big file indeed...my PC struggled to catch up with it unfortunately, meaning the scenes stuttered.
Is this for a film project?

George David · September 17th, 2006, 03:32 PM

It's one of Steven Dempsey's short subject films. It's pretty amazing that he can get that kind of quality from an XLH1. I'm pretty sure an HD100 can create stunning pictures like that, too. I just want to see what settings would be appropriate. I think the closest is probably Steven's panamatch setting shot during magic hour :-)

Joe Bowey · September 17th, 2006, 03:56 PM

I am still downloading but that is an amazing video.

September 8th, 2006, 07:17 AM	#64
Carl Martin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York Posts: 164	Live Hd30p/hd25p Hey Tim, Under file manage, what is the selection LIVE HD30P/HD25P used for, and when should it be used for? Thanks.

September 9th, 2006, 02:53 PM	#69
Keith Gruchala Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 52	broken links to Stephen Noe's scene files Most of the links published are broke for recipe

September 6th, 2006, 01:05 PM	#61
David Scattergood Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 755	Would I be correct in saying that you can't use the camera itself as a card reader (which unfortunately I don't have...although I have a Panasonic mini DV cam with USB...that could work eh?)? Currently playing around with the recipe's kindly posted on this forum...thought I'd first play around with the 'Amelie' recipe. Using this in 25p (SD) the image is extremely shuttery...am I doing something wrong? Understand the delicate nature or progressive shooting but this quite extreme. Shutter speed issue...that fact this is not in HDV? thanks folks. dave.

September 7th, 2006, 08:44 AM	#63
David Scattergood Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 755	Cheers Tim - not sure why the shutter speed had altered??? Same apply (1/50) for HDV? must admit I'm struggling a little over CAM1/2 etc and the EXT.SCN and USER buttons?!?! Can the camera store more than 4 scenes whereas you can only store 4 of them on a card? Can't say I've fallen in love with the JVC manual! Thanks. dave

September 10th, 2006, 03:26 AM	#70
David Scattergood Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 755	Thanks Tim - I'm getting there!

September 15th, 2006, 04:41 PM	#71
Christer Molander New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7	Thank you all on this thread for your knowledge. I´ve learned a lot about camerasettings to achieve a special look in-cam. Does somebody know if this is doable on a (for example) Sony DSR570. I´m about to do a shooting of a theatrical piece with 3 Sony 570 and a JVC 101.The Sonys will work from long to mid-range and the JVC go extremclose on one actors face. I would like to have a bleachout look from all of them but less so from the JVC101. Thanks for all the reciepe on scene files.

September 16th, 2006, 11:43 AM	#72
George David Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 150	Hello. I've been using Tim's various receipes (color reversal, warm), Stephen's panamatch, and Paolo's TC the past few months. All of them are great and have their own uses. Which HD100 setting do you guys think is the closest to Steven Dempsey's panalook (XL-H1)? Here's an example footage (warning, large download): http://www.realm.cc/upload/disjecta/FridayHarbor.wmv

September 17th, 2006, 01:43 PM	#73
David Scattergood Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 755	That's really special George, I'm struggling to believe this is from the same camera I have in front of me (still learning the multitude of elements that go into this and I haven't as yet had chance to film in high def). Big file indeed...my PC struggled to catch up with it unfortunately, meaning the scenes stuttered. Is this for a film project?

September 17th, 2006, 03:32 PM	#74
George David Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 150	It's one of Steven Dempsey's short subject films. It's pretty amazing that he can get that kind of quality from an XLH1. I'm pretty sure an HD100 can create stunning pictures like that, too. I just want to see what settings would be appropriate. I think the closest is probably Steven's panamatch setting shot during magic hour :-)

September 17th, 2006, 03:56 PM	#75
Joe Bowey Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 217	I am still downloading but that is an amazing video.