HD100 Series Scene File Recipes & Downloadable .SCN files

Doug Harvey · April 11th, 2006, 01:34 PM

Hi:

I just got my HD-100 and really love the HD performance, I also have a DVX-100A but the HD detail on the JVC HD -100 on a big screen is amazing. It takes a little practice to get use to the change to a shoulder mount camera, I don't have the Anton Mount yet, have to wait until it comes in ( 2 weeks) , so it is a little front heavy, and slides around on your shoulder when shooting. I tried shooting a live Skate Concert on the 2nd day I had the camera, the footage could have been alot better. I had used the camera for about 15 minutes on the standard battery to shoot other footage before I got there. Well, besides having about 20 minutes left on the only tape I had on me (I got a head cleaning message), so I Fast Forward and then rewinded the tape to hopefully find a clean spot on the tape. Well besides having a couple of skipped frames, the results were still amazing ( considering I am just learning how to make this camera work). Anyone that wants to look at the 30fps results, the file is available on my website for viewing (its in a windows .wmv degraded to 384Kbps and it still looks not bad for a newbee on full automatic, bad lighting, and so on)
<a href="http://www.portstanleynews.com/TV/Skate1.wmv">http://www.portstanleynews.com/TV/Skate1.wmv</a>

The question I would like to ask is "are the scene files besides the True Color available in just plain text so I can input them manually, because I don't have a SD card reading, writing equipment?
Thanks

Paolo Ciccone · April 11th, 2006, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Harvey

Hi:
The question I would like to ask is "are the scene files besides the True Color available in just plain text so I can input them manually, because I don't have a SD card reading, writing equipment?
Thanks

Hi Doug, welcome to the club :)

Tim's settings are avaibale in text format, click on the "recipes" link in the first message and you'll get a PDF with the textual description of the configuration.

Doug Harvey · April 11th, 2006, 03:03 PM

Thanks Paolo,

I guess I should have looked a little closer, Thanks for the directions.
Well, I will give them a try as the standard look seems bland.

Dane Oldridge · April 14th, 2006, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Harvey

Hi:

It takes a little practice to get use to the change to a shoulder mount camera, I don't have the Anton Mount yet, have to wait until it comes in ( 2 weeks) , so it is a little front heavy, and slides around on your shoulder when shooting.

Doug, Not to get too off topic but I just got my AB adapter and used a Dionic on it. Sweet balance! I had shot all weekend with the standard JVC battery and agree, its a little front heavy. You will most likely love the weight with your Anton Bauers. I'm not sure it would be very good with a hytron or the old bricks, though. I'll post when I find out.

The IDX adapter, which I rented for another unit weighted out fairly well.

Stephen L. Noe · April 19th, 2006, 10:52 PM

Hi,

I've added the "Panamatch" menu screen grabs to the Panamatch discussion in case people would like to try the file but do not have a card reader.

all the best...

Tim Dashwood · April 20th, 2006, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen L. Noe

Hi,

I've added the "Panamatch" menu screen grabs to the Panamatch discussion in case people would like to try the file but do not have a card reader.

all the best...

Thanks Stephen. I fixed the link in the top post.

Luis Otero · April 20th, 2006, 10:04 AM

Tim,

Every link is working for me, except the ZIP files ones. It takes me to a DV Info Net Error Message, saying that I do not have "sufficient privileges".

Luis

Alexei Berteig · May 7th, 2006, 10:30 AM

I got a gig DP'ing a short film for an up-and-coming Chinese director for film festival release. He took one look at my hot new camera and said, "yay, let's shoot!" We're going to be transferring to 35mm - I'm going to try out Paolo's TCV2 since I want to preserve every ounce of data for the color correction and digital intermediate stages. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

Luis Otero · May 7th, 2006, 05:17 PM

Alexei,

Paolo recently published a V3 of his setting. You may want to check them out, along with his comments as to why he is recommending the new parameters.

Luis

Alexei Berteig · May 8th, 2006, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luis Otero

Alexei,

Paolo recently published a V3 of his setting.

Luis

I just took a quick look around. Where's that recipie posted?

Luis Otero · May 8th, 2006, 03:11 PM

Hey,

It is posting #11 of this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...033#post475033

Hope this helps...

Luis

Diogo Athouguia · May 10th, 2006, 10:15 AM

Anyone tried to match settings on the HD100 and the HVX200? I will be shooting a doc with both cameras...

Daniel Patton · May 15th, 2006, 09:51 AM

Been there and tried that. I would maybe take another approach.

You might find that by setting the JVC to Paolos DSC matched setting and then working to match the HVX to a DSC color chart as well, might be a better approach. As a side note... I wonder if the HVX will gain you as much color latitude as does the JVC. I say this because although the HVX did a great job right out of the box in regards to color reproduction; it did not have nearly the range / latitude as did the JVC. This added topic is for another thread, sorry.

The only look of the HVX was softer with less detail. So the first thing you will want to do is to turn OFF detail on the JVC, (even a min setting was higher than the HVX in my opinion). then work on color.

Diogo Athouguia · May 15th, 2006, 06:46 PM

Thanks Daniel, I will try that!

Ram Ganesh · May 17th, 2006, 12:16 PM

What is the difference between using scenefiles (like TrueColor 1/2/3) to bump color & other variables during shooting, than doing it during post production inside NLE or other software?

assuming:
* Electronic sharpness is controlled or MIN/-7
* That I have time/desire to do minor tweaking anyway.

If you record widest possible bland image (maybe default settings or some wide DR scene), you have the freedom of tweaking it during post.

So, are SCN files used to save time during post or when post production is not a luxury...

April 11th, 2006, 01:34 PM	#16
Doug Harvey New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Port Stanley, Canada Posts: 23	Plain Text? Hi: I just got my HD-100 and really love the HD performance, I also have a DVX-100A but the HD detail on the JVC HD -100 on a big screen is amazing. It takes a little practice to get use to the change to a shoulder mount camera, I don't have the Anton Mount yet, have to wait until it comes in ( 2 weeks) , so it is a little front heavy, and slides around on your shoulder when shooting. I tried shooting a live Skate Concert on the 2nd day I had the camera, the footage could have been alot better. I had used the camera for about 15 minutes on the standard battery to shoot other footage before I got there. Well, besides having about 20 minutes left on the only tape I had on me (I got a head cleaning message), so I Fast Forward and then rewinded the tape to hopefully find a clean spot on the tape. Well besides having a couple of skipped frames, the results were still amazing ( considering I am just learning how to make this camera work). Anyone that wants to look at the 30fps results, the file is available on my website for viewing (its in a windows .wmv degraded to 384Kbps and it still looks not bad for a newbee on full automatic, bad lighting, and so on) <a href="http://www.portstanleynews.com/TV/Skate1.wmv">http://www.portstanleynews.com/TV/Skate1.wmv</a> The question I would like to ask is "are the scene files besides the True Color available in just plain text so I can input them manually, because I don't have a SD card reading, writing equipment? Thanks Last edited by Doug Harvey; April 11th, 2006 at 02:42 PM.

April 11th, 2006, 03:03 PM	#18
Doug Harvey New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Port Stanley, Canada Posts: 23	Thank You Thanks Paolo, I guess I should have looked a little closer, Thanks for the directions. Well, I will give them a try as the standard look seems bland.

May 7th, 2006, 10:30 AM	#23
Alexei Berteig Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Beijing, China Posts: 38	TCV2 and 35mm transfer I got a gig DP'ing a short film for an up-and-coming Chinese director for film festival release. He took one look at my hot new camera and said, "yay, let's shoot!" We're going to be transferring to 35mm - I'm going to try out Paolo's TCV2 since I want to preserve every ounce of data for the color correction and digital intermediate stages. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

May 10th, 2006, 10:15 AM	#27
Diogo Athouguia Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 282	Match settings for HD100 and HVX200 Anyone tried to match settings on the HD100 and the HVX200? I will be shooting a doc with both cameras...

May 15th, 2006, 09:51 AM	#28
Daniel Patton Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 589	Been there and tried that. I would maybe take another approach. You might find that by setting the JVC to Paolos DSC matched setting and then working to match the HVX to a DSC color chart as well, might be a better approach. As a side note... I wonder if the HVX will gain you as much color latitude as does the JVC. I say this because although the HVX did a great job right out of the box in regards to color reproduction; it did not have nearly the range / latitude as did the JVC. This added topic is for another thread, sorry. The only look of the HVX was softer with less detail. So the first thing you will want to do is to turn OFF detail on the JVC, (even a min setting was higher than the HVX in my opinion). then work on color. __________________ Our eyes allow us to see the world - The lens allows others to see the world through our eyes. RED ONE #977

April 19th, 2006, 10:52 PM	#20
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Hi, I've added the "Panamatch" menu screen grabs to the Panamatch discussion in case people would like to try the file but do not have a card reader. all the best...

April 20th, 2006, 10:04 AM	#22
Luis Otero Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fort Dodge, IA Posts: 221	Tim, Every link is working for me, except the ZIP files ones. It takes me to a DV Info Net Error Message, saying that I do not have "sufficient privileges". Luis

May 7th, 2006, 05:17 PM	#24
Luis Otero Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fort Dodge, IA Posts: 221	Alexei, Paolo recently published a V3 of his setting. You may want to check them out, along with his comments as to why he is recommending the new parameters. Luis

May 8th, 2006, 03:11 PM	#26
Luis Otero Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fort Dodge, IA Posts: 221	Hey, It is posting #11 of this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...033#post475033 Hope this helps... Luis

May 15th, 2006, 06:46 PM	#29
Diogo Athouguia Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 282	Thanks Daniel, I will try that!

May 17th, 2006, 12:16 PM	#30
Ram Ganesh Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 175	A general question about the scene files. What is the difference between using scenefiles (like TrueColor 1/2/3) to bump color & other variables during shooting, than doing it during post production inside NLE or other software? assuming: * Electronic sharpness is controlled or MIN/-7 * That I have time/desire to do minor tweaking anyway. If you record widest possible bland image (maybe default settings or some wide DR scene), you have the freedom of tweaking it during post. So, are SCN files used to save time during post or when post production is not a luxury... __________________ http://www.wizedot.com