What Deck to compliment the HD100?

Constantin Marin · February 16th, 2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Albert Henson

I use a sony hc1 to playback and for fcp to capture footage I gather with the hd100. It works fine for both the 720p and 1080i. I've also used the HVR-M10U VTR first hand to capture 720p hdv footage gathered from the hd100 as a solution.The jvc deck is fine if you want to lay back in hdv or standard dv. I recommend that you try both a jvc and sony deck out and see for yourself. But as I said before-if you want bang for your buck adn cross compatability. sony is cornering this aspect of the hdv market. I will reiterate once again though, that sony cannot playback or layback or capture, 24p footage.

I ma verry sure that you are talking about the compatibility between Sd footage from JVC HD100 and sony HC1, and not between HD footage. It's impossible.

William Hohauser · February 17th, 2006, 12:29 PM

I just returned the HVR-M10U to the dealer and exchanged it for a JVC BR-HD50. My dealer was actually happy to get the deck back as the Sony rep just called him this morning to announce that the M10 is being discontinued and no new model is being announced.

The JVC deck is more substantial unit anyway (and I don't mean the size) despite the lack of the LCD screen.

Kevin Wild · February 17th, 2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by William Hohauser

My dealer waas actually happy to get the deck back as the Sony rep just called him this morning to announce that the M10 is being discontinued and no new unit is being announced.

You mean "Today no model is being announced." :-) I have a feeling we'll be hearing things very soon about a new deck. Seems to have been a lot of "quiet talk" lately...

KW

William Hohauser · February 17th, 2006, 02:21 PM

The timing is strange. Sony puts a rebate on the deck and then discontinues it soon after. If it was a ploy to empty the inventory it makes sense except everyone who buys the deck now is unlikely to purchase the new model. Anyway they need to put out an HDV deck with a more substantial loading mechanism. The mechanism was out of a $300 camcorder.

Daniel Weber · February 17th, 2006, 02:49 PM

There was a protype HDV deck at IBC that had a full size cassette. I think that it might have had SDI ports on it as well, though not sure on that one. I couldn't get my hands on the deck to double check the ports. It did use a full size cassette though.

Wonder if they might come out with a camera that shoots a full size cassette (like the DSR250 did in DVCAM).

Don't mean to take this discussion offtopic.

Dan Weber

Gary McClurg · February 19th, 2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate Weaver

There's only one deck for 24P capture, and that's the JVC BR50.

For output, it's more complicated. The JVC HDV deck will do DV, DVCAM or HDV. The trick is that HDV really isn't a broadcast format. Even Lightning Dubbs here in Los Angeles can't take a JVC HDV 24p tape and make a DVCPRO HD or HDCAM.

I personally have built a system where I can rent an HD deck and output that way. The other method, which is only good for certain markets is the offline @home, online elsewhere scenario. A cottage industry has sprung up in Los Angeles for people offlining FCP projects at home, then take your firewire drive in and output on somebody else's rig.

Nate... are you sure that Lighting dubs can't do the uprez to HDCAM... the only reason I'm asking is that we're doing some second unit with the camera... and the editor told me on Friday that they were taking to Lighting... so I'll have to find this out for sure...

Nate Weaver · February 19th, 2006, 12:11 PM

Back when I asked about it, they only had the Sony HDV deck in the edit bay setup, not the duplication chains. And I specifically asked at the time if they had the JVC deck...which they did not.

I imagine by now some things have changed with that, but I wouldn't just assume they have the JVC deck. All the people I've seen bumping HDV up to DVCPRO HD or HDCAM have been having to rent decks and do it themselves.

Gary McClurg · February 19th, 2006, 06:33 PM

I'll have to call them tomorrow and find out... working on a feature but I only have to get the film in the can... not doing anything with post... except trying to make the workflow better for the editor...

But the way I was thinking was that the editor was going to fire-wire out of the camera and into a deck...

But like I said I only heard that Lighting could do it...

Nate... I might send you an email...

Thanks Gary

Joseph A. Benoit · March 29th, 2007, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Henson

I use a sony hc1 to playback and for fcp to capture footage I gather with the hd100. It works fine for both the 720p and 1080i. I've also used the HVR-M10U VTR first hand to capture 720p hdv footage gathered from the hd100 as a solution.The jvc deck is fine if you want to lay back in hdv or standard dv. I recommend that you try both a jvc and sony deck out and see for yourself. But as I said before-if you want bang for your buck adn cross compatability. sony is cornering this aspect of the hdv market. I will reiterate once again though, that sony cannot playback or layback or capture, 24p footage.

Hello i have a M10U deck got with my FX1.
No longer have the FX1 got a hd110u, i just tried to play 720p 30,
A messg. came up change tape format. if you could explain how this work it would be great.
Save me having to buy the JVC hd50 deck
thank you
Joe

Sam Miller · June 14th, 2008, 08:56 PM

Hi Barry,

Do you have a solution for Final Cut Studio 2 when playing back HD (720p - 30fps) out to firewire to the BR50 Deck, then display in HD monitor from the deck? I've updated the deck with software/firmware 109. I'm able to capture HD and print to video - from and through the deck but the setup in FCS2 is grayed-out in the HD 720p 30fps playback setup menu.

I'm editing on a Power Mac G5, dual 2.7 processors, 8 GB ram, (this is a non-intel chip sys).

Thanks, Sam Miller

Joseph A. Benoit · June 15th, 2008, 12:30 PM

Why not just get the Focus DR HD 100/ No tape need unless you want use it

JOE

Steven Moreno · June 27th, 2008, 02:37 AM

What about the jvc hd1 or hd10 as a deck?

I have a hd100 that has a fried firewire port, and I've been on the lookout for a cheap solution...

Sareesh Sudhakaran · July 19th, 2008, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Moreno

What about the jvc hd1 or hd10 as a deck?

I have a hd100 that has a fried firewire port, and I've been on the lookout for a cheap solution...

I had a simple question: how much time does it take to transfer one tape (62min) on the BR-HD50 to an NLE?
Thanks.

Daniel Weber · July 19th, 2008, 06:36 AM

62 minutes.

Capture is real time from tape. This is not a file transfer.

Daniel Weber

Bryan Shelley · July 22nd, 2008, 11:06 PM

I hope it's ok to post this here. Let me know if not.
I have just put up my whole JVC kit for sale in the classifieds section here. I'm a bit torn as this deck has served me well. but I've moved on and find it just isn't need in my rack. details: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=126461

Bryan Shelley

February 17th, 2006, 12:29 PM	#32
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	I just returned the HVR-M10U to the dealer and exchanged it for a JVC BR-HD50. My dealer was actually happy to get the deck back as the Sony rep just called him this morning to announce that the M10 is being discontinued and no new model is being announced. The JVC deck is more substantial unit anyway (and I don't mean the size) despite the lack of the LCD screen. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation Last edited by William Hohauser; February 17th, 2006 at 05:52 PM.

February 17th, 2006, 02:21 PM	#34
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	The timing is strange. Sony puts a rebate on the deck and then discontinues it soon after. If it was a ploy to empty the inventory it makes sense except everyone who buys the deck now is unlikely to purchase the new model. Anyway they need to put out an HDV deck with a more substantial loading mechanism. The mechanism was out of a $300 camcorder. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

February 17th, 2006, 02:49 PM	#35
Daniel Weber Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 696	Which deck? There was a protype HDV deck at IBC that had a full size cassette. I think that it might have had SDI ports on it as well, though not sure on that one. I couldn't get my hands on the deck to double check the ports. It did use a full size cassette though. Wonder if they might come out with a camera that shoots a full size cassette (like the DSR250 did in DVCAM). Don't mean to take this discussion offtopic. Dan Weber

February 19th, 2006, 12:11 PM	#37
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	Back when I asked about it, they only had the Sony HDV deck in the edit bay setup, not the duplication chains. And I specifically asked at the time if they had the JVC deck...which they did not. I imagine by now some things have changed with that, but I wouldn't just assume they have the JVC deck. All the people I've seen bumping HDV up to DVCPRO HD or HDCAM have been having to rent decks and do it themselves. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

June 14th, 2008, 08:56 PM	#40
Sam Miller New Boot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14	FCP Playback of HD Timeline to BR50 Deck Hi Barry, Do you have a solution for Final Cut Studio 2 when playing back HD (720p - 30fps) out to firewire to the BR50 Deck, then display in HD monitor from the deck? I've updated the deck with software/firmware 109. I'm able to capture HD and print to video - from and through the deck but the setup in FCS2 is grayed-out in the HD 720p 30fps playback setup menu. I'm editing on a Power Mac G5, dual 2.7 processors, 8 GB ram, (this is a non-intel chip sys). Thanks, Sam Miller

February 19th, 2006, 06:33 PM	#38
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	I'll have to call them tomorrow and find out... working on a feature but I only have to get the film in the can... not doing anything with post... except trying to make the workflow better for the editor... But the way I was thinking was that the editor was going to fire-wire out of the camera and into a deck... But like I said I only heard that Lighting could do it... Nate... I might send you an email... Thanks Gary

June 15th, 2008, 12:30 PM	#41
Joseph A. Benoit Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coconut Creek FL Posts: 291	Why not just get the Focus DR HD 100/ No tape need unless you want use it JOE

June 27th, 2008, 02:37 AM	#42
Steven Moreno Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles CA USA Posts: 30	What about the jvc hd1 or hd10 as a deck? I have a hd100 that has a fried firewire port, and I've been on the lookout for a cheap solution...

July 19th, 2008, 06:36 AM	#44
Daniel Weber Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 696	62 minutes. Capture is real time from tape. This is not a file transfer. Daniel Weber

July 22nd, 2008, 11:06 PM	#45
Bryan Shelley Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnetonka, MN USA Posts: 45	If you need a deck. I hope it's ok to post this here. Let me know if not. I have just put up my whole JVC kit for sale in the classifieds section here. I'm a bit torn as this deck has served me well. but I've moved on and find it just isn't need in my rack. details: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=126461 Bryan Shelley