More HD-100 content to view (many genre) at DVinfo.net

Stephen L. Noe · January 13th, 2006, 09:33 PM

Hi,

Here is some more HD-100 created content. The documentary, independant film, music video, commercial, nature and outdoors were all shot here in Chicago. The drama and sports were shot in the orient. The oriental drama clips and sports clips were not raw m2t to me but nevertheless it displays what the HD-100 is all about. This is a small sampling of clips destined for 35mm film transfer and then projected at Columbia College (Chicago) on Feb 2. This is wmv. The clips are not color corrected and use various scene files and camera manipulation. We want to see what these raw scene files look link in transfer.

Sorry Mac guys, I'd love to put the elementary streams up for you but it's just to big.
Click Here

If you'd like to join in and see how well the HD-100 transfers to 35mm with your own eyes at Columbia College, register at the JVC professional web site for the JVC sponsored day.

Have fun and keep shooting...

Gary McClurg · January 13th, 2006, 09:36 PM

The link doesn't work...

Brian Duke · January 13th, 2006, 09:37 PM

Not working =(

Stephen L. Noe · January 13th, 2006, 09:41 PM

Link fixed amigos....

Brian Duke · January 13th, 2006, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen L. Noe

If you'd like to join in and see how well the HD-100 transfers to 35mm with your own eyes at Columbia College, register at the JVC professional web site for the JVC sponsored day.

Have fun and keep shooting...

Do you have a link to that?

Daniel Patton · January 13th, 2006, 10:19 PM

All I can say is WOW!

The train and the orient sporting event was stunning. So many other great shots / footage, too much to list in fact. It makes me want to run out with my JVC out and shoot like a rabid dog.

Any tips on your low light footage, as for settings?

Thanks for sharing Stephen.

p.s. I have a feeling the server bandwidth is going to suffer once word gets around regarding that clip, we may need to talk.

Chris Metts · January 14th, 2006, 12:23 AM

The link is down, I would really love to see this stuff. maybe somone can E-mail it to me? vatn@cfl.rr.com

Thanks
Chris

Michael Maier · January 14th, 2006, 02:54 AM

Looks great! I didn't see any compression or MPEG2 HDV artefacts in the snow or fast soccer motion scene. I tell you the people who bashes HDV are the ones who don’t use it.
The wide shots with the guy in the suit coming out of the building and in Chicago at night with the train in the background looked very sharp. Shots like that would have fell apart with DV. Lots of beautiful stuff in that reel like the Sky Vodka shot. Congrats.

P.S. One more Pro who escapes the SSE curse (hehehe, sarcasm!!!)

Greg Corke · January 14th, 2006, 07:13 AM

As usual some great stuff. Thanks for sharing with us. Partularly loved the harbour and train.

Regards Greg C

P.S. Any news on a scene file sticky in the forum?

Thomas Smet · January 14th, 2006, 08:40 AM

HDV 1 really is a whole different beast when compared to HDV 2 (1080i) other than the name being the same they are not even close in terms of quality.

Most people who say HDV sucks are watching the more common 1080i form of HDV or HDV 1 from the old single chip JVC HDV camera.

Stephen thanks for those samples. I am returning today from our 5 week trip to South Africa. Right before we left for South Africa we sold our house in California and moved to Madison, WI. I think I might just have to take a small drive to Chi-town and check out some of the transfers.

January 14th, 2006, 11:44 AM

Stephen,

Beautiful footage. Thank you for taking your time to prepare and post it. I watched the footage on my Sony Vaio... three times!

Tim Dashwood · January 14th, 2006, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen L. Noe

Sorry Mac guys, I'd love to put the elementary streams up for you but it's just to big.
Click Here

For the Mac guys, Microsoft has officially announced that they will not be developing Windows Media Player for Mac anymore (they haven't had a new version in two years.)

However, they are offering for free a download of Flip4Mac v2.0 which was developed by a third party and allows Windows Media content to be played from within Quicktime. It even works in Safari as a plug-in.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../flip4mac.mspx

I have been using the new version of Flip4Mac all morning and it has been working great... except for Stephen's file above. The problem is that Flip4Mac only supports up to Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile and not WMV10.

So please, I beg anyone encoding and uploading WMV files, for the sake of cross compatibility please use WMV9 and not 10.

Raymond Toussaint · January 14th, 2006, 01:42 PM

There are problems with QT 7.04 and the original Flip4mac version.

Apple QuickTime v7.0.4 users, please use this new Flip4Mac version 2.01:

http://www.flip4mac.com/downloads/wm...MV%202.0.1.dmg

Nate Weaver · January 14th, 2006, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond Toussaint

There are problems with QT 7.04 and the original Flip4mac version.

Yeah, I had been just figuring that out :-) Good link. Shanks.

Les Dit · January 14th, 2006, 03:27 PM

The encoded video is only 5 megabit , so there are plenty of compression artifacts due to that. 9 megabits/sec works better for 720p.
The edge enhancements are far too evident for a film like 35mm transfer. For example, look at the edge of the buildings in the train footage. The ringing ( overshoot) due to the video edge enhancements are a disappointment, as I know this can be turned down in the camera.
I come from a film background, and I'm starting to think that folks coming from a video background just aren't tuned into these defects.
If the test was supposed to see how close the hd100 can come to a film look, then re shoot with the sharpening turned down. Film *never* has overshoot or ringing.
-Les

January 13th, 2006, 09:33 PM	#1
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	More HD-100 content to view (many genre) Hi, Here is some more HD-100 created content. The documentary, independant film, music video, commercial, nature and outdoors were all shot here in Chicago. The drama and sports were shot in the orient. The oriental drama clips and sports clips were not raw m2t to me but nevertheless it displays what the HD-100 is all about. This is a small sampling of clips destined for 35mm film transfer and then projected at Columbia College (Chicago) on Feb 2. This is wmv. The clips are not color corrected and use various scene files and camera manipulation. We want to see what these raw scene files look link in transfer. Sorry Mac guys, I'd love to put the elementary streams up for you but it's just to big. Click Here If you'd like to join in and see how well the HD-100 transfers to 35mm with your own eyes at Columbia College, register at the JVC professional web site for the JVC sponsored day. Have fun and keep shooting...

January 13th, 2006, 10:19 PM	#6
Daniel Patton Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 589	All I can say is WOW! The train and the orient sporting event was stunning. So many other great shots / footage, too much to list in fact. It makes me want to run out with my JVC out and shoot like a rabid dog. Any tips on your low light footage, as for settings? Thanks for sharing Stephen. p.s. I have a feeling the server bandwidth is going to suffer once word gets around regarding that clip, we may need to talk. __________________ Our eyes allow us to see the world - The lens allows others to see the world through our eyes. RED ONE #977

January 14th, 2006, 12:23 AM	#7
Chris Metts Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Olando, FL Posts: 27	The link is down, I would really love to see this stuff. maybe somone can E-mail it to me? vatn@cfl.rr.com Thanks Chris __________________ Drama is choice, decision, action is character.

January 14th, 2006, 02:54 AM	#8
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Looks great! I didn't see any compression or MPEG2 HDV artefacts in the snow or fast soccer motion scene. I tell you the people who bashes HDV are the ones who don’t use it. The wide shots with the guy in the suit coming out of the building and in Chicago at night with the train in the background looked very sharp. Shots like that would have fell apart with DV. Lots of beautiful stuff in that reel like the Sky Vodka shot. Congrats. P.S. One more Pro who escapes the SSE curse (hehehe, sarcasm!!!) Last edited by Michael Maier; January 14th, 2006 at 09:20 AM.

January 14th, 2006, 07:13 AM	#9
Greg Corke Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 245	Hi Stephen As usual some great stuff. Thanks for sharing with us. Partularly loved the harbour and train. Regards Greg C P.S. Any news on a scene file sticky in the forum?

January 13th, 2006, 09:36 PM	#2
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	The link doesn't work...

January 13th, 2006, 09:37 PM	#3
Brian Duke Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 899	Not working =(

January 13th, 2006, 09:41 PM	#4
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Link fixed amigos....

January 14th, 2006, 08:40 AM	#10
Thomas Smet Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,719	HDV 1 really is a whole different beast when compared to HDV 2 (1080i) other than the name being the same they are not even close in terms of quality. Most people who say HDV sucks are watching the more common 1080i form of HDV or HDV 1 from the old single chip JVC HDV camera. Stephen thanks for those samples. I am returning today from our 5 week trip to South Africa. Right before we left for South Africa we sold our house in California and moved to Madison, WI. I think I might just have to take a small drive to Chi-town and check out some of the transfers.

January 14th, 2006, 11:44 AM	#11
Guest Posts: n/a	Stephen, Beautiful footage. Thank you for taking your time to prepare and post it. I watched the footage on my Sony Vaio... three times! Last edited by Guest; January 14th, 2006 at 12:58 PM.

January 14th, 2006, 01:42 PM	#13
Raymond Toussaint Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 173	new version! There are problems with QT 7.04 and the original Flip4mac version. Apple QuickTime v7.0.4 users, please use this new Flip4Mac version 2.01: http://www.flip4mac.com/downloads/wm...MV%202.0.1.dmg

January 14th, 2006, 03:27 PM	#15
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	The encoded video is only 5 megabit , so there are plenty of compression artifacts due to that. 9 megabits/sec works better for 720p. The edge enhancements are far too evident for a film like 35mm transfer. For example, look at the edge of the buildings in the train footage. The ringing ( overshoot) due to the video edge enhancements are a disappointment, as I know this can be turned down in the camera. I come from a film background, and I'm starting to think that folks coming from a video background just aren't tuned into these defects. If the test was supposed to see how close the hd100 can come to a film look, then re shoot with the sharpening turned down. Film never has overshoot or ringing. -Les