Tamron Lens Results and Edit Software at DVinfo.net

Yusuf Thakur · October 26th, 2005, 11:39 AM

Last week I posted pictures of Nikon lens mounted to the JVCGYhd100 camera, below are links to image grabs from
video shot with both the Nikon mount lens and the Standard 16X Fujinon lens. The grabs are self explanatory. After a lot of frustration with NLE including FCP/Liquid/Premiere for capturing and Batch capturing there is a solution that works,
though there are some issues with time-code, I have a strong suspicion that its got to do with JVC system. All my work has been done in 720P25, done some test in 720P24 and 720P30. The software which can finally capture,edit, and output to tape in HDV is Ulead Media Studio Pro8. downloaded a 30Day trial which is fully functional. Did the following, Launched the editor, then setup a 720P25 project, launched batch capture logged six clips, set capture except for a very slow 5 seconds preroll,
the software had no other problems capturing. Edited five clips and viola recorded back to tape. All in 720P25.
So guys go download and try, thats the best solution right now and I belive it also does 720P24, but have not tried it.
Below are all the picture links both lens and mount and the grabs from the footage shot with the both the Nikon mount lens abd the Fujinon. Incidently all the capture and conversion to Tiff images was done Ulead MS8 on my Laptop.
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/BatteryCU.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/FullShotFront.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwing...otLowAngle.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/FullShotSide.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/HD100910Front.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/HD100910Rear.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/LensCU.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Fuj2.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Fuj1.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Tam1.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Tam2.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Tam3.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Tam4.jpg

Glenn Gipson · October 26th, 2005, 12:44 PM

Half of those links don't work for me. And as for the Nikon lens, did you use some type of shallow d.o.f. device for it?

Warren Shultz · October 26th, 2005, 02:00 PM

The first 7 links say "page not found".

Ben Syverson · October 26th, 2005, 05:52 PM

Where did you get the Nikon adapter?

Barry Green · October 27th, 2005, 02:16 AM

Yusuf, most of the links don't work. But thank you for putting up those pictures! Very interesting.

Do you have a chance to do any more comparison shots? It would be most interesting to see the Tamron compared against the Fujinon when shooting the same field of view on the same subject. The Fujinon tele shot shows extremely excessive chromatic aberration; it would be most helpful to see how the Tamron would handle the same shot, and if it delivers comparable resolving power.

John Mitchell · October 27th, 2005, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yusuf Thakur

though there are some issues with time-code, I have a strong suspicion that its got to do with JVC system. All my work has been done in 720P25, done some test in 720P24 and 720P30.

Yusuf - see my thread on PAL SD timecode issues for the possible cause to your problems in PAL SD25

Alexei Berteig · October 27th, 2005, 12:06 PM

holy cow, the images you shot through that Tamron look really good. What exactly is the lens and how did you mount it? What's the _effective_ zoom range and t-stops? (I assume that if it's a 35mm still lens rated at 200-400, it's probably more like 800-1600 when you take into consideration the size of the ccd) ??? etc...I'm really interested in what people are doing to get different lenses onto the front of this camera.

Alexei Berteig · October 27th, 2005, 12:09 PM

BTW, for clarification, when you say "Nikon mount," do you mean this is a Nikon lens or is it, as labelled on the .jpgs (Tam 1 thru 4) a tamron lens?

Yusuf Thakur · October 28th, 2005, 08:38 AM

All the links work now, below are the links to my earlier post.
The adapter is a mechanical one made by zoerk in Germany
cost Euro280/- you can mount any nikon mount lens, nikon, tamron,sigma. etc.
We are still doing tests between work as we find time, does the setup, check the pictures, we will shoot comparitive resolution charts with all our lenses will post if possible, It takes time to do all this.

Most of the questions have been answered in the earlier post, yes the chromatic problem is due to not white-balancing after changing each every lens.
Well we all learn, my camera guy who film based dop, did
not know about this, and I had forgotten to tell him.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52880
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...t=43262&page=3

Yusuf Thakur · October 28th, 2005, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Mitchell

Yusuf - see my thread on PAL SD timecode issues for the possible cause to your problems in PAL SD25

Yes John I did read your post, and have printed out you post.
Will discuss this with, JVC.
Checked if the solutions was in the advance menu, but did find one. Yes I do know about that was given this when we had a dead pixel, took five minutes to sort this out once
I recived the advance menu from JVC here in Dubai.

October 26th, 2005, 11:39 AM	#1
Yusuf Thakur Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 68	Tamron Lens Results and Edit Software Last week I posted pictures of Nikon lens mounted to the JVCGYhd100 camera, below are links to image grabs from video shot with both the Nikon mount lens and the Standard 16X Fujinon lens. The grabs are self explanatory. After a lot of frustration with NLE including FCP/Liquid/Premiere for capturing and Batch capturing there is a solution that works, though there are some issues with time-code, I have a strong suspicion that its got to do with JVC system. All my work has been done in 720P25, done some test in 720P24 and 720P30. The software which can finally capture,edit, and output to tape in HDV is Ulead Media Studio Pro8. downloaded a 30Day trial which is fully functional. Did the following, Launched the editor, then setup a 720P25 project, launched batch capture logged six clips, set capture except for a very slow 5 seconds preroll, the software had no other problems capturing. Edited five clips and viola recorded back to tape. All in 720P25. So guys go download and try, thats the best solution right now and I belive it also does 720P24, but have not tried it. Below are all the picture links both lens and mount and the grabs from the footage shot with the both the Nikon mount lens abd the Fujinon. Incidently all the capture and conversion to Tiff images was done Ulead MS8 on my Laptop. http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/BatteryCU.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/FullShotFront.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwing...otLowAngle.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/FullShotSide.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/HD100910Front.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/HD100910Rear.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/LensCU.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Fuj2.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Fuj1.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Tam1.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Tam2.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Tam3.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/yusufwings/Tam4.jpg

October 28th, 2005, 08:38 AM	#9
Yusuf Thakur Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 68	Links work All the links work now, below are the links to my earlier post. The adapter is a mechanical one made by zoerk in Germany cost Euro280/- you can mount any nikon mount lens, nikon, tamron,sigma. etc. We are still doing tests between work as we find time, does the setup, check the pictures, we will shoot comparitive resolution charts with all our lenses will post if possible, It takes time to do all this. Most of the questions have been answered in the earlier post, yes the chromatic problem is due to not white-balancing after changing each every lens. Well we all learn, my camera guy who film based dop, did not know about this, and I had forgotten to tell him. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52880 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...t=43262&page=3

October 26th, 2005, 12:44 PM	#2
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	Half of those links don't work for me. And as for the Nikon lens, did you use some type of shallow d.o.f. device for it?

October 26th, 2005, 02:00 PM	#3
Warren Shultz Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 248	The first 7 links say "page not found".

October 26th, 2005, 05:52 PM	#4
Ben Syverson Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 434	Where did you get the Nikon adapter?

October 27th, 2005, 02:16 AM	#5
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Yusuf, most of the links don't work. But thank you for putting up those pictures! Very interesting. Do you have a chance to do any more comparison shots? It would be most interesting to see the Tamron compared against the Fujinon when shooting the same field of view on the same subject. The Fujinon tele shot shows extremely excessive chromatic aberration; it would be most helpful to see how the Tamron would handle the same shot, and if it delivers comparable resolving power.

October 27th, 2005, 12:06 PM	#7
Alexei Berteig Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Beijing, China Posts: 38	holy cow, the images you shot through that Tamron look really good. What exactly is the lens and how did you mount it? What's the _effective_ zoom range and t-stops? (I assume that if it's a 35mm still lens rated at 200-400, it's probably more like 800-1600 when you take into consideration the size of the ccd) ??? etc...I'm really interested in what people are doing to get different lenses onto the front of this camera.

October 27th, 2005, 12:09 PM	#8
Alexei Berteig Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Beijing, China Posts: 38	BTW, for clarification, when you say "Nikon mount," do you mean this is a Nikon lens or is it, as labelled on the .jpgs (Tam 1 thru 4) a tamron lens?